On Sun, 2003-01-05 at 22:00, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Sun, Jan 05, 2003 at 09:12:36PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > However, if these programs display > > them to the user on a tty, it will be necessary to convert them to the > > user's locale encoding > > Hmm. Remember the far more common case of a program that takes a > filename on the command line and then tries to open it. The user > would have typed it in the local encoding, so it needs conversion.
That's true. Hm. Maybe the best approach will be to first just implement Unicode and UTF-8 support for more programs, so it is how they handle filenames (and strings in general) internally, much like how GNOME programs do it now. This is all well and good, I think. The bigger question is what to do for programs that create or rename files, especially from user input. Should they try to convert filenames back into the locale encoding? I would say no, because 1) it could fail if the locale encoding can't encode certain characters and 2) it will just prolong the brokenness. For programs like 'touch' though which do not look at the filename at all, I think they should not be changed at all. They will create a file named using the same encoding given to it as an argument. After we have a "sufficient" number of programs supporting UTF-8 natively in this way, we change the policy on filenames to a "must", drop support for legacy terminals and encodings, and switch everyone to a UTF-8 terminal, and a UTF-8 locale. My guess is that this could happen some time after sarge's release. For sarge, we could (and probably should) make the default locale for new installations be UTF-8. After we've switched to a UTF-8 locale for everyone, programs will no longer need the code to handle legacy encodings. It will probably still be useful to keep it though, because the legacy encodings will be around for a long time, and we want things to Just Work as much as possible. So again, after this current policy proposal is accepted, it will still not be a RC bug to not have UTF-8 support; but people will know that it is coming. What do you think?
