On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 01:57:35PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 13:12, Radovan Garabik wrote: > > > see #99933. It has been seconded and generally accepted at the time, > > but policy freeze caused it did not get into policy then. > > Hmm, I searched the policy bug list, I don't know how I missed those. > Probably my fault for using galeon-snapshot and expecting its search > function to work :) > > #99324 isn't really a proposal, just a discussion. > > #99933 goes a lot farther than #174982. First of all, we can't even > suggest that people use UTF-8 in package control fields until all our > tools support it. Right now it is just plain broken to put anything but > ASCII in them.
But people are putting ISO-8859-1 there, now and then. And I am going to use UTF-8 for Maintainer: in my packages, once I have new stable mail address (and new UTF-8 GPG alias) > > I also personally don't like how it recommends using a "well-established > encoding" or UTF-8. I mean, that's basically saying nothing. It well, the whole proposal was a compromise after a long and bloody flamewar :-) > doesn't help applications at all, which will still be forced to guess > what encoding files are in. In short, it doesn't improve the situation It does help users, though. Most users are strictly monolingual (English does not count) and use the well-established encoding. > at all. I think policy should be silent on the encoding for most files, > until we can usefully say it will just be UTF-8. Perhaps though policy > could *suggest* UTF-8, and mention that it is the preferred encoding. As my proposal does - there is just "should" everywhere, no "must" > > I do like the HTML META tag suggestion, although in the case of XHTML, > it should be fine to use the charset parameter of the XML processing > instruction, like in <?xml version="1.0" charset="UTF-8"?>. Yes, this is fine. > > > Perhaps it is time now to accept it, since people keep > > reinventing the proposal from time to time (this is the third > > one I see) > > Yes, I think the time is getting closer. But I wanted my proposal to be > small and simple, just a way for Unicode to get a foothold in policy, > which we can expand later. > If you manage to persuade relevant persons (Manoj?). Good luck :-) -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | Radovan Garabík http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/ | | __..--^^^--..__ garabik @ melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk | ----------------------------------------------------------- Antivirus alert: file .signature infected by signature virus. Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature file to help me spread!
