>>"Anthony" == Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> writes:
Anthony> On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 11:11:20AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> justification: this is not a flaw in the policy, at best, this may be >> a proposal to change policy to codifying, in my opinion, a less >> desirable behaviour, and should be treated like any other proposal Anthony> For heaven's sake, does someone have to disagree with _EVERYTHING_? Cause we can think, and heaven forbid, sometimes even form opinions, and not always have the same opinions as you do? >> Sorry, this is a bug in those packages. Anthony> No, it is not. Is too. >> dpkg has always had >> the correct behavour of not reinstalling conffiles that are removed; >> and so do packages managing configuration files using ucf. Anthony> That's really great. The reason some packages _don't_ use Anthony> dpkg or ucf for managing their configuration files is Anthony> because dpkg's and ucf's behaviour is _not_ always Anthony> desirable. That's an utterly bogus line of argument, and an Anthony> absolutely _meaningless_ one -- it's making policy for Anthony> policy's sake rather than because it actually benefits Anthony> anyone. Bull shit. Give me one example where you can determine, up on high, that your world view always trumps the local human decision. So far, you have labelled my line of reasoning as bogus. Fine then. >> Policy, while documenting practice for the most part, should >> not recommend or condone broken behavour just because packages are >> broken. Anthony> The. Packages. Are. Not. Broken. It's that simple. Are too. I can descend to your level of argument, nyah nyah. Anthony> How many times have you found base-passwd recreating Anthony> /etc/passwd and /etc/group a nuisance? Never? Funny that. If I ever remove those files, I would too find it annoying. Funny what? When I create a himeypot, and remove inetd.conf, I do not want to be second guessed and have my decision thwarted. We are designing for the intelligent operator, not the least common moronic denominator. Anthony> Why the fuck do we have to have a debate about this? Because not all of us are cognizant fo the fact htat you have ascended to heaven and are now passing codas to us mere mortals. Grow the fuck up. manoj -- Real software engineers don't like the idea of some inexplicable and greasy hardware several aisles away that may stop working at any moment. They have a great distrust of hardware people, and wish that systems could be virtual at *___all* levels. They would like personal computers (you know no one's going to trip over something and kill your DFA in mid-transit), except that they need 8 megabytes to run their Correctness Verification Aid packages. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C