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Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -------------------------------------- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 16 Nov 2001 11:35:18 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 16 05:35:18 2001 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from ns1.alcove-solutions.com (smtp-out.fr.alcove.com) [212.155.209.139] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 164hHB-0005QM-00; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 05:35:17 -0600 Received: from kasba.alcove-fr ([10.16.10.14]) by smtp-out.fr.alcove.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 164hHA-0007Ys-00; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:35:16 +0100 Received: from ydirson by kasba.alcove-fr with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 164hHE-0004sd-00; Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:35:20 +0100 From: Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Debian Bug Tracking System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [PROPOSAL] Postscript files requirements X-Reportbug-Version: 0.54.1 X-Mailer: reportbug 0.54.1 Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:35:20 +0100 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package: debian-policy Version: N/A; reported 2001-11-16 Severity: normal I propose that we add a section under the "documentation" chapter, to request a minimum of coherence and sanity of PostScript files. My problem is that some maintainers (probably for paper-saving reasons, which in itself is a valuable idea) ship 2-up versions of postscript files, whereas others ship 1-up versions. Problem with 2-up is that it is meant for printing, and not ideal for online browsing. I suggest that we require not to feed postscript documents through a n-up-izer tool. In the same direction of allowing easy browsing of ps docs, I suggest that we require ps docs to contain orientation and format information. Note: incidentally, it is possible that some n-up-izer tools (namely psutils) strip this information. See also: my bug report against package iproute -- System Information Debian Release: 2.2 Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux kasba 2.2.19-reiserfs #1 Thu May 3 15:17:15 CEST 2001 i686 --------------------------------------- Received: (at 119821-done) by bugs.debian.org; 8 Sep 2002 05:44:16 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 08 00:44:16 2002 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from pcp559992pcs.rthfrd01.tn.comcast.net (glaurung.green-gryphon.com) [68.52.105.148] (srivasta) by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 17nurn-00071A-00; Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:44:15 -0500 Received: from glaurung.green-gryphon.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by glaurung.green-gryphon.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-3) with ESMTP id g885YpYs005876; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 00:34:55 -0500 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by glaurung.green-gryphon.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-3) id g885Yo51005873; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 00:34:50 -0500 X-Mailer: emacs 21.2.1 (via feedmail 9-beta-7 I) To: debian-policy@lists.debian.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reviewing policy bugs From: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2 (i386-debian-linux-gnu) (i386-debian-linux-gnu) X-URL: http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ Organization: The Debian Project Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Time: Sun Sep 8 00:34:49 2002 X-Face: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/;Y^gTjR\T^"B'fbeuVGiyKrvbfKJl!^e|e:iu(kJ6c|QYB57LP*|t &YlP~HF/=h:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:6Cj0kd#4]>*D,|0djf'CVlXkI,>aV4\}?d_KEqsN{Nnt7 78"OsbQ["56/!nisvyB/uA5Q.{)gm6?q.j71ww.>b9b]-sG8zNt%KkIa>xWg&1VcjZk[hBQ>]j~`Wq Xl,y1a!(>6`UM{~'X[Y_,Bv+}=L\SS*mA8=s;!=O`ja|@PEzb&i0}Qp,`Z\:6:OmRi* Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 00:34:49 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lines: 172 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Perusuant to my message earlier, there are the first set of pending bug reports. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #114920: [PROPOSAL] remove foolish consistency in perl module names Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 3= 34 days old. There was a long discussion, and I think most objections were were addressed. An interesting point was that debian packages are typically named after the CPAN _distribution name_, not the _module name_; and this needs be fixed in Perl policy to reflect reality. We need to modify the proposal to require the full name (as put in provides) to be also mentioned in the long description, and then perhaps perl policy can be changed? Are there any objections to this? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #115438: [PROPOSAL] addition of new menu tag for kde menu removal Package: debian-policy; Reported by: "Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 329 days old. From what I can gather, this proposal calls for the menu system honouring either a kderemove or a removeonwm tag, and not installing duplicate entries; however, as I understand it, there is no code, so this seems to be in the design phase. I think this is not suitable for inclusion in policy until we have modified the menu package (isn't it being rewritten or something?). Should be retitled PENDING, and severity lowered to wishlist or something. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #119821: [PROPOSAL] Postscript files requirements Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 295 days old. Would make shipping only 2-up versions of postscript docs illegal. Gathered no seconds. I am not sure we need to make this policy. If the documentation is unreadable, bugs should be filed. Policy is, umm, not a stick. or sumpn. I am going to close this bug. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #123074: adding gfdl(7) and gpl(7) Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 272 days old. Also gathered no seconds. I think licenses should be added to common licenses when they are indeed common. Roughly speaking, I would think that one needs to have at least a 5% share before one dubs a license common, don't you think? In any case, gdfl does not yet qualify (even discounting rumblings I heard regarding whether it is deemed free enough). I am going to close this bug. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #128681: Debian Menu Policy Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Ben Bucksch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 239 days old. Umm. this bug report requires that a new. logical, consistent menu policy be created ;-). I am going to lower severity to wishlist until there is some meat to this report. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #128734: debian-policy: criteria for Games/Puzzles is not precise enough Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >; 239 days old. Yet another menu classification bug. I am going to lower severity to wishlist until there is some meat to this report. Perhaps merge with 128681. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #129375: debian-policy: typo/logic error in debconf spec Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 235 days old. Umm. This seems like an out right bug in policy (though I don't yet grok debconf). I guess policy needs to be fixed. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #131583: debian-policy: packaging-manual section 7.1 missing from policy Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Gergely Nagy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 220 days old. * #148194: debian-policy: Clarification needed regarding multi-line fields Package: debian-policy; Reported by: "John R. Daily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 104 days old. Hmm. I guess this could fall under the specifications bit. I would like the input of the dpkg folks to figure out what the format specification for the input files that packages need to create; and include them into policy. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #132069: sysnews: Attempt to be FHS compliant breaks compatibility with System V standard Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Dominik Kubla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 216 days old. Oh, great. The FHS and the SysV standards are incompatible. Has someone followed this up with the FHS folks? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #132767: debsum support should be mandatory Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Matthew Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 212 days old. From the report itself: > All rpm-based systems support rpm --verify. Having > debsums support optional makes debian an inferior > distribution in this aspect. Making DEBIAN/md5sums > required rather than optional would rectify this > situation. debsums is a poor and incomplete solution. The best thing is to have dpkg compute+store the same data when the package is unpacked on the fly. Then we don't bloat the archive, the feature can be turned on/off, etc. From the debsums man page: DPkg::Post=E2=80=90Invoke { "debsums =E2=80=90=E2=80=90generate=3Dnocheck =E2=80=90sp /var/c= ache/apt/archives"; }; /etc/apt/apt.conf fragment to generate missing checksums after upgrade/install. I am going to close this report. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #143941: define a usable character set for description/maintainer na= me etc. Package: debian-policy; Reported by: Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 139 days old. Hmm. Seems like we want to support utf-8 for the future, though perhaps that can wait until we get tool support for that. dpkg-query should start supporting it soon. I guess we should shelve this until we have better support from the tool chain. (we do not have consensus, in any case) I'll retitle this to PENDING and reduce severity to wishlist. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D * #149709: [BUG] section 10.3.3 does not provide enough guidance for package maintainers to use update-rc.d correctly Package: debian-policy; Reported by: "Branden Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 88 days old. Hmm. Part of this is a flaw in policy; the second part seems like a dictum to how update-rc.d ought to behave. The former is under the purview of policy, and shall be changed. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D manoj -- It seems intuitively obvious to me, which means that it might be wrong. 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