On Sat, Aug 18, 2001 at 10:38:49PM -0300, Cesar Eduardo Barros wrote:
> I have only one thing to add to that list: traceroute should be moved, _not_ 
> to
> /usr/bin as lots of people claim, but to /bin . It's as necessary and useful 
> as
> ping to diagnose networking trouble, and /usr might be mounted via NFS through
> a gateway -- exactly what we want to diagnose. Same for the ipv6 versions of
> ping and traceroute.

In that case, you'd use "ping ga.te.wa.y" to check if the gateway's up,
and "ping nfs.se.rv.er" to check if your NFS server is up. If either
wasn't up, you'd call networking support, and find out what's going on,
since you'd be rather insane to mount /usr from somewhere remote that
you don't have control over.

Moving traceroute at all has the same problems no matter where it's too,
anyway. /sbin is no either than /bin or /usr/bin. ping6 is already in
/bin, btw.

This isn't a policy matter anyway: it only affects one
package (traceroute), so it's something to take up with the
maintainer. Personally, I wouldn't, since I don't think the above adds
anything particularly profound to the debate.

Cheers,
aj

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