On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 08:57:39PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Brian Russo wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 07:56:04PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > > > Then I'll adopt all the packages that don't have a maintainer and send > > > RFAs for them (like I did with several of the packages tbm wanted to > > > remove). But I take care about them when the maintainer is set to Debian > > > QA, too, so I can't see the big difference. > > > > Yes, well as I've said to tbm, 1) adopting a package just to 'save' > > it, without really caring/wanting it just perpetuates old crufty > > I care about these packages: > - they have no open RC bugs > - I fix all other bugs I can fix without spending too much time > - they have all a Standards-Version <= 3.1 > (that means their Standards-Version is higher than the one of 25% > of the packages in Debian!)
eh? example: saml There is 7 open bugs on it (1 serious, 6 normal, 1 wishlist) Standards-Version: 2.3.0.1 upstream last touched it approximately /four/ years ago. Not all orphaned packages are like this, but there are a fair number. I'm not talking about the packages that have been orphaned for only a few months. > > > packages in Debian, while some of these ancient neglected packages > > are just.. neglected, others are genuinely useless I think, > > otherwise would someone not have cared, and grabbed it? > > I remember that "silo" was orphaned for several months before someone > adopted it... I'm not talking about several months, more like 1 year+, there are many of these in wnpp. > > > Which brings me to 2) can we get rid of more of these old crufty > > ones? Everyone is so afraid do this, else they'll get flamed for > > being evil and removing old packages! indeed the impertinence. > >... > > How do you decide if something is "old crufty"? I believe that of "Our > Priorities are Our Users and Free Software" and that's why I want that > there's a good reason when a package gets removed. If something has been abandoned for a 1 year and a half, you don't think it's crufty? -- Brian Russo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Debian/GNU Linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.debian.org LPSG "member" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.lpsg.org -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-