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Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -------------------------------------- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 20 Jan 2000 01:41:48 +0000 Received: (qmail 3779 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2000 01:41:47 -0000 Received: from janeway.cistron.net ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 20 Jan 2000 01:41:47 -0000 Received: from lightning.mors.net ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [195.64.66.141]) by janeway.cistron.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) with ESMTP id CAA02766 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 02:41:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: janeway.cistron.net: Host [EMAIL PROTECTED] [195.64.66.141] claimed to be lightning.mors.net Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by lightning.mors.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-6) id CAA04311 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 20 Jan 2000 02:41:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 02:41:25 +0100 From: Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PROPOSED] Changes in handling library dependencies Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM" User-Agent: Mutt/1.0i --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Package: debian-policy (This is being resend because the BTS apparently can't handle PGP/MIME messages with attachments). In woody dpkg will use a different method to determine on which libraries a package should depend. Until now dpkg-shlibdeps has used the output of ldd to determine which libraries are needed. This will be changed to using objdump. This however changes will need a couple of changes in the way that packages are build. Let me first explain the differences between ldd and objdump. A binary itself is linked against 0 or more dynamic libraries, depending on how it is linked. Some of those libraries may need other libraries to do their work, so the linker will need to load those as well when the binary is executed. For example, to run xcdrgtk needs the following libraries according to ldd: libgtk-1.2.so.0 =3D> /usr/lib/libgtk-1.2.so.0 (0x40019000) libgdk-1.2.so.0 =3D> /usr/lib/libgdk-1.2.so.0 (0x4013d000) libImlib.so.1 =3D> /usr/lib/libImlib.so.1 (0x40170000) libgdk_imlib.so.1 =3D> /usr/lib/libgdk_imlib.so.1 (0x401ab000) libc.so.6 =3D> /lib/libc.so.6 (0x401d9000) libgmodule-1.2.so.0 =3D> /usr/lib/libgmodule-1.2.so.0 (0x402b5000) libglib-1.2.so.0 =3D> /usr/lib/libglib-1.2.so.0 (0x402b8000) libdl.so.2 =3D> /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x402da000) libXi.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXi.so.6 (0x402de000) libXext.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x402e6000) libX11.so.6 =3D> /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x402f3000) libm.so.6 =3D> /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40392000) libjpeg.so.62 =3D> /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x403af000) libtiff.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3 (0x403cf000) libungif.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib/libungif.so.3 (0x40411000) libpng.so.2 =3D> /usr/lib/libpng.so.2 (0x4041a000) libz.so.1 =3D> /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0x40442000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 =3D> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000) Now if we leek a bit closed we see that xcdrgtk actually only links to a couple of those libraries directly. The actual depencies are a tree which looks something like this: (anyone interested in writing a tool to make such a graph?) xcdrgtk +- libc +- gtk +- gdk | +- libXi | +- libXext | \- libX11 +- Imlib | +- libjpeg | +- libtiff | | +- libjpeg | | +- libm | | \- libz | +- libungif | | \- libX11 | +- libpng | | +- libz | | \- libm | +- libz | \- libm \- gdk_imlib +- libgmodule-1.2 | \- libdl +- libglib-1.2 \- libdl \- ld-linux (I haven't listed libc in here, but all libraries are also linked to libc). What ldd does is give us a complete list of every library that is needed to run the binary (in other words, if flattens this tree). objdump however can tell us exactly what library something is linked with. For the same xcdrgtk binary it will tell us: NEEDED libgtk-1.2.so.0 NEEDED libgdk-1.2.so.0 NEEDED libImlib.so.1 NEEDED libgdk_imlib.so.1 NEEDED libc.so.6 All the other libraries are automatically pulled in by the dynamic loader. And now for the connection to package management: a package only needs to depend on the libraries it is directly linked to, since the dependencies for those libraries should automatically pull in the other libraries. This change does mean a change in the way packages are build though: currently dpkg-shlibdeps is only run on binaries. But since we will now depend on the libraries to depend on the libraries they need the packages containing those libraries will need to run dpkg-shlibdeps on the libraries. That may sound a bit strange, so here is an example: Generally a package does this in debian/rules: dpkg-shlibdeps debian/tmp/usr/bin/* This will need to be changes to: dpkg-shlibdeps debian/tmp/usr/bin/* debian/tmp/usr/lib/lib*.so.* For lib* packages which don't generally contain libraries and didn't run dpkg-shlibdeps a dpkg-shlibdeps call will need to be added as well. This gives us a lot more flexibility in the way libraries are packaged. A good example where this would help us is the current mess with multiple version of the mesa library. With the ldd-based system every package that uses mesa need to add a dependency on svgalib|svgalib-dummy in order to handle the glide mesa variant. With an objdump-based system this isn't necessary anymore and would have saved everyone a lot of work. Another example: we could update libimlib with a new version that supports a new graphics format called dgf. If we use the old ldd method every package that uses libimlib would need to be recompiled so it would also depend on libdgf or it wouldn't run due to missing symbols. However with the new system packages using libimlib can depend on libimlib itself having the dependency on libgdh and wouldn't need to be updated. Belos is a diff for the packaging manual with the necessary changes. Wichert. --- packaging.sgml.org Wed Jan 19 15:43:20 2000 +++ packaging.sgml Wed Jan 19 15:53:07 2000 @@ -732,7 +732,7 @@ </p> =20 <p> =20 - Its arguments are executables + Its arguments are executables and libraries <footnote> <p> They may be specified either in the locations in the @@ -745,7 +745,7 @@ </p> =20 <p> =20 - If some of the executable(s) shared libraries should only + If some of the found shared libraries should only warrant a <tt>Recommends</tt> or <tt>Suggests</tt>, or if some warrant a <tt>Pre-Depends</tt>, this can be achieved by using the <tt>-d<var>dependency-field</var></tt> option @@ -4646,9 +4646,15 @@ </heading> =20 <p> =20 - <prgn>dpkg-shlibdeps</prgn> calls <prgn>ldd</prgn> to - determine the shared libraries used by the compiled - binaries passed through its command line. + <prgn>dpkg-shlibdeps</prgn> calls <prgn>objdump</prgn> to + determine the shared libraries directly + <footnote> a binary <tt>foo</tt> directly use a library + <tt>libbar</tt> if it is linked with that library. Other + libraries that are needed by <tt>libbar</tt> are linked + indirectly to <tt>foo</tt>, and the dynamic linker will load + the automatically when it loads <tt>libbar</tt>. + </footnote> used by the compiled binaries and libraries + passed through its command line.=20 </p> =20 <p> =20 --=20 ________________________________________________________________ / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your convenience \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.liacs.nl/~wichert/ | | 1024D/2FA3BC2D 576E 100B 518D 2F16 36B0 2805 3CB8 9250 2FA3 BC2D | --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjiGZ8UACgkQPLiSUC+jvC0ABACdEviBiy63CQjAUtCHamG/ULQj XCEAoKHrh0ub3TaEXea9pwJBND7RoFEx =bhhT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cWoXeonUoKmBZSoM-- --------------------------------------- Received: (at 55730-close) by bugs.debian.org; 18 Jan 2001 20:10:52 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jan 18 14:10:50 2001 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from murphy.debian.org [::ffff:216.234.231.6] by master.debian.org with smtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 14JLOT-0001XC-00; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:10:50 -0600 Received: (qmail 920 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 19:48:49 -0000 Received: from auric.debian.org ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by murphy.debian.org with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 19:48:49 -0000 Received: from troup by auric.debian.org with local (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 14JL1w-0006sv-00; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:47:32 -0500 From: Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Bug#55730: fixed in debian-policy 3.2.1.2 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:47:32 -0500 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of debian-policy, which has been installed in the Debian FTP archive: debian-policy_3.2.1.2.dsc to pool/main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.2.1.2.dsc debian-policy_3.2.1.2_all.deb to pool/main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.2.1.2_all.deb policy.text.gz byhand policy.html.tar.gz byhand menu-policy.text.gz byhand debian-policy_3.2.1.2.tar.gz to pool/main/d/debian-policy/debian-policy_3.2.1.2.tar.gz virtual-package-names-list.text byhand mime-policy.text.gz byhand policy.ps.gz byhand policy.pdf.gz byhand libc6-migration.text byhand A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is attached. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. Debian distribution maintenance software pp. Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org> (supplier of updated debian-policy package) (This message was generated automatically at their request; if you believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Format: 1.7 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 01:43:58 -0600 Source: debian-policy Binary: debian-policy Architecture: source all Version: 3.2.1.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Policy List <debian-policy@lists.debian.org> Changed-By: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description: debian-policy - Debian Policy Manual and related documents Closes: 51879 53496 53700 55048 55730 57154 59403 65765 66912 76028 Changes: debian-policy (3.2.1.2) unstable; urgency=low . * The minimal change in version number is so that people can test and root out the bugs in this document before we make everyone change to this version. * Document the Enhances relationship * Removed the restriction that one, and exactly one, person must maintain a package. closes: Bug#51879 * Fixed a typo, and added the nogroup name, in uid/gid section of policy. closes: Bug#53496 * Fixed a misstatement in policy about not needing to depend on packages in the base system (not true -- the Essential tag is significant) closes: Bug#53700 * Clarified update-rc.d stuff closes: Bug#55048 . * We have already included the material for shlibdep changes, and most of this is not relevant to policy anyway. closes: Bug#55730 * makedev--> MAKEDEV closes: Bug#57154 * Added restrictions on the files in /usr/share/doc/ closes: Bug#59403 * Changed location of a paragraph about copyright files into the section that deals with copyright files. closes: Bug#65765 * init script configuration variables closes: Bug#66912 * Clarifed language about packages sharing a conffile need to be marked as conflicting closes: Bug#76028 Files: 7873b3a6ddd5f3fc015ccb2aaae800a8 662 doc optional debian-policy_3.2.1.2.dsc 9cbc8f71b1bb280c441a9e33cc85daa5 486560 doc optional debian-policy_3.2.1.2.tar.gz 04d4f5d13f7ab04c97034c884e6425b4 542540 doc optional debian-policy_3.2.1.2_all.deb 42928cef99fee859b6442277e91eeb22 120715 byhand - policy.ps.gz 9632447891b3a57f956b52c80fd177e7 208362 byhand - policy.pdf.gz 0fbf6fcc843ed1c928f5f92b05949c43 66419 byhand - policy.html.tar.gz 203f852c33bd0d6df7b8a66977728d98 62122 byhand - policy.text.gz 3ed7aa5a489834b24bb28ff377a34aa9 10982 byhand - libc6-migration.text 1e4917c791262f0cd6de796444e51c86 7785 byhand - virtual-package-names-list.text 1b08168ee1c506d3475612bc4d3cdbbf 2180 byhand - menu-policy.text.gz 52f844690780aef153828e7325e90d91 1599 byhand - mime-policy.text.gz -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6ZqAGIbrau78kQkwRAdekAKDV1PGCUax5rPPt54LgMtGzQA5odACdH0xE RX5CFc75JTHxEfEmaPEfUPk= =+KRS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----