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Darren Benham (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -------------------------------------- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 31 Aug 1999 00:43:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 25711 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 00:43:21 -0000 Received: from geneva.visi.net (HELO mail4.visi.net) (206.246.194.4) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 00:43:21 -0000 Received: from lappy.djj.state.va.us (ppp35.ts1-2.NewportNews.visi.net [209.8.199.99]) by mail4.visi.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA05519 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:54:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmc by lappy.djj.state.va.us with local (Exim 3.03 #1 (Debian)) id 11LaCl-0002JB-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:47:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:25:52 -0400 From: Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PROPOSAL] changing policy on compiling with -g .. a better way Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.95.7i Received: by geneva for bmc (with Cubic Circle's cucipop (v1.21 1997/08/10) Mon Aug 30 20:34:32 1999) X-From_: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Aug 30 20:22:18 1999 Received: from master.debian.org ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [209.41.108.5]) by mail1.visi.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA12032 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:22:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20890 invoked by uid 1285); 31 Aug 1999 00:22:12 -0000 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 20789 invoked from network); 31 Aug 1999 00:22:08 -0000 Received: from murphy.debian.org (209.41.108.199) by master.debian.org with SMTP; 31 Aug 1999 00:22:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 14348 invoked by uid 38); 31 Aug 1999 00:21:57 -0000 Resent-Date: 31 Aug 1999 00:21:57 -0000 Resent-Cc: recipient list not shown: ; X-Envelope-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/0.95.7i Resent-Message-ID: <"Ypun2B.A.pfD.kAyy3"@murphy> Resent-From: debian-policy@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: <debian-policy@lists.debian.org> archive/latest/5796 X-Loop: debian-policy@lists.debian.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package: policy As a buildd admin, I want to congratulate the original policy on all the wasted cpu cycles it has cost my system by forcing packages to compile with -g even though those same binaries will be stripped later of this costly debugging information. Now, what I want to propose, is not a change so much as an ammendment. Keep the policy there (which is meant to make it easier to build binaries and libraries with debugging information), but add an ammendment for this situation: -------- The package can by default build without -g if it also provides a mechanism to easily be rebuilt with debugging information. This can be done by providing a "build-debug" make target, or allowing the user to specify "BUILD_DEBUG=yes" in the environment while compiling that package. -------- Now this has several added benefits: 1) It is actually easier to build debugging bins and libraries this way (no more editing debian/rules or similar) since it provides a documented way of getting this type of build. 2) There will be much less wasted cpu time for the autobuilders since not having debugging information (and hence also not having to strip it) will increase the speed of compiles. This skips an entire pass of the compiler, iirc Please, I would simply like to get a second on this and have it voted on or whatever it is that we do with policy proposals now-a-days. Then added to policy. I don't want to argue over the ten million technical points, and considering this is very unobtrusive, and allows the maintainer to choose (not force) whether or not to abide by it, it shouldn't provide much flame material, nor extensive discussion about the pro's and con's. Thanks, Ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------- Received: (at 43787-done) by bugs.debian.org; 2 Aug 2000 22:17:22 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Aug 02 17:17:22 2000 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from mail.interchange.ubc.ca [137.82.27.15] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 2 (Debian)) id 13K6pG-0004dX-00; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 17:17:22 -0500 Received: from srtp05-245.resnet.ubc.ca ([142.103.56.245] helo=polya) by mail.interchange.ubc.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13K6pH-0003m6-00; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:17:23 -0700 Received: from jdg by polya with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13K6pA-0007wU-00; Wed, 02 Aug 2000 15:17:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:17:16 -0700 From: Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Closed in debian-policy 3.2.0.0 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] These bugs have been closed in policy version 3.2.0.0. Thanks Manoj! Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://www.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/