Well, there was a lot of noise about Ian's proposals about policy management, but we now seem to be stuck. It appears from an email he sent that Manoj is unwilling to modify policy for the time being until we have a concensus or dictate of some sort on this matter, and I sort of agree. At the moment, a policy version 4.0.0.0 is sitting in the CVS tree and on (one of) Manoj's web pages (can't remember which), but it would be nice to put in some more recent agreements and actually release the thing. (There was some disagreement about the version number; it's probably safe to downgrade the version number if we want to with an appropriate announcement to this list, as only those on this list know about 4.0.0.0.)
I generally think the policy process we currently have is pretty good. We fouled up badly with the FHS transition, but I think we have all learnt from that, and we should not make such a mistake again. So the main sticking point now is "non-sexy" proposals which are obviously correct and obviously need implementing, but can't arouse enough interest to get seconds, or those which are obviously wrong and should be dropped, but nobody bothers to object to. I suggest that we have a couple of policy caretakers (DPL delegates?) who are able to announce to the -policy list (via the BTS) about such proposals: "This proposal has had no seconds and no objections. If no objections/seconds are received within 2 weeks, the proposal will be considered accepted/rejected." Note that this is not a power of veto or similar (so no czars), just a way to ensure that the Right Thing gets done. I think that the rest of the process itself is working quite smoothly. I do agree, though, that it would be nice to have a better way of tracking proposals, but that's a lot of work, and who has the time for that? But there are rarely that many going at once. I would initially volunteer Manoj (assuming he's willing) and myself for this (not particularly exciting) task. Do people find this an acceptable compromise for the time being? Julian -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Julian Gilbey, Dept of Maths, QMW, Univ. of London. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Developer, see http://www.debian.org/~jdg Donate free food to the world's hungry: see http://www.thehungersite.com/