Hi,

        I can accept that java creators are in a sufficient state of
 flux to jsutify not regenerating the binary ourselves.

        I suggest that these packages be be collected into a can't
 build from source package list, with all the security connotations. 

        I volunteer to maintain the list, if we so decide.

        manoj

>>"Stefan" == Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Stefan> We already had this discussion on Debian-Java last year but
 Stefan> did not find a solution there. I also have a package that
 Stefan> just copies a jar archive to the .deb (gnujsp) because there
 Stefan> could be some incompatibilities or even bugs (the early
 Stefan> versions of jikes produced buggy code for gnujsp).

 Stefan> I then decided to just copy the .jar so I distribute the same
 Stefan> classes as the upstream authors and I am sure that upstream
 Stefan> bugs are really upstream bugs and not my fault.

 Stefan> I got a lot of bug reports about gnujsp in private mail that
 Stefan> could all be solved by switching from kaffe to Sun's oder
 Stefan> IBM's JDK - I don't want to think about the number of
 Stefan> incompatibilies or bugs we could introduce by compiling your
 Stefan> classes with kaffe/classpath (and Debian would surely prefer
 Stefan> to use free tools to compile packages).


-- 
 DE: The Soviets seem to have difficulty implementing modern
 technology. Would you comment on that?  Belenko: Well, let's talk
 about aircraft engine lifetime.  When I flew the MiG-25, its engines
 had a total lifetime of 250 hours.  DE: Is that
 mean-time-between-failure?  Belenko: No, the engine is finished; it
 is scrapped.  DE: You mean they pull it out and throw it away, not
 even overhauling it?  Belenko: That is correct.  Overhaul is too
 expensive.  DE: That is absurdly low by free world standards.
 Belenko: I know. an interview with Victor Belenko, MiG-25 fighter
 pilot who defected in 1976 "Defense Electronics", Vol 20, No. 6,
 pg. 102
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