Hi, >>"Joseph" == Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Joseph> But it has been abused, quite seriously. Popularity contests Joseph> HAVE been used to defeat sound technical solution to a purely Joseph> technical problem. Given that the policy guidelines are not Joseph> meant to resolve technical issues of any controversial Joseph> nature, they're pretty much limited to fixing typos and Joseph> there's no point to needing proposals and seconds for that. Joseph> Structure is good to keep things moving, but the individual Joseph> developers need to be able to be part of it. OTOH, what we Joseph> have now is essentially chaotic bureaucratic process, with Joseph> all the faults of such systems such as the now month or so Joseph> we've been arguing over this and gotten nowhere. In fact, if Joseph> anything IMO we've taken a few steps backwards in the Joseph> process. Joseph> Of course this is all 20/20 hindsight. Yes. The whole process was predicated on the assumption that people on the list are cooperative, and are indeed trying to reach a compromise, and that the formal objection process would not be used except as a last resort. I would be very sad if we can't even do that. I had hoped that formal objections would not be used to derail a proposal that one did not like, but to nip in the bud any egregiously unworkable proposals. Maybe this should have been spelled out. Joseph> We apparently need to find some way to deal with Joseph> controversial technical issues. A month's senseless flaming Joseph> and then appealing to the technical committee is going to get Joseph> slightly annoying. Is it too late to ask people to behave and try and work together? Instead of object first, and talk later? manoj -- compuberty, n: The uncomfortable period of emotional and hormonal changes a computer experiences when the operating system is upgraded and a sun4 is put online sharing files. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E