Quoting Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [ Note that I think all this discussion is a little premature - I'd still > like to get the current proposal into policy first. ]
I agree with you, so I move it to debian-devel and change the subject line. Still need to CC you, joost? > > Chris Waters wrote: > > This is why *my* number one, absolute top priority for changes to the > > current menu system is to put in a TOP LEVEL ENTRY NAMED "Help". With > > at least: "Debian Online Help" (currently hidden in Apps/Tools), Gnome > > Help (currently in Apps/Viewers), tkinfo (currently in Apps/Viewers), > > and xman (location unknown). This is SOO important for novices! > > I completly agree. <AOL/me too/ > > > > * You need to limit menus to no more than 15 items, 10 is better. > Otherwise > > > they won't fit on some screens. > > > > This is a whole 'nuther ball of wax. Joost mentioned this when I > > discussed menus with him. The problem is that you cannot predict > > which packages will be installed, so you need to write some sort of > > intelligent heuristics. If you just create a wider, deeper set of > > categories, you're going to end up with all sorts of nearly-empty > > menus on a lot of peoples systems (most?). Which is Not Good. There > > is a *lot* of work involved in trying to achieve this one. Therefore, > > I suggest we ignore this issue until we come up with a Good scheme. > > Right. One easy way to handle this that I rememer talking about with Joost > was making menu detect menus with only 1 or 2 items in them, and collapsing > such menus into the parent menu. That would be nice to have. Until menu > supports that though, we just need to keep an eye on large menus like > Apps/Net and be prepared to split them when they are too big on most > systems. There are the other way around, also, which I think is better (but not exclusive to your scheme): when menu are too big (can be determined with a variable), just divided the pacakges by [ number_of_packages % limit_of_packages + 1] and find the nearest first letter change. After that, you could build sub-menus with title like A-L, M-W and X-Z. I think this work can be done (not necessarely easily) in the current menu system, without affecting all the WM. Joost has made an excellent job for this :) > > -- > see shy jo > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fabien Ninoles Chevalier servant de la Dame Catherine des Rosiers aka Corbeau aka le Veneur Debian GNU/Linux maintainer E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WebPage: http://www.tzone.org/~fabien RSA PGP KEY [E3723845]: 1C C1 4F A6 EE E5 4D 99 4F 80 2D 2D 1F 85 C1 70 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
