As some who has complained about overproceduralizing before, I'm a little shocked by what seems to be ad hominom attacks and a lack of understanding about the way we do things.
Let me start by saying that since the Ian Murdock days (or later), it has been Debian Policy which has made us more than a gaggle of cats. Without the definitions, standards, requirements, and terms of Debian Policy, Debian would lack coherence, vision, and real integration. This is important because I think the same process of standardizing ourselves is what the current "wave" of proceduralization is about. > Scott McDermott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Not true. What's being set up is a system that fulfills its own >> prophecy. People will cite rules and regulations now instead of >> resolving things socially. But I can't suggest a better way to do >> it either so... Either you're talking about the constitution, or you're talking about our Policy editing guidelines. If you're talking about the Constitution, you're misguided since the conflict resolution procedures in the Constitution are specifically for the cases when the *standard* ways of resolving conflicts (flame wars, email debate into exhaustion, etc.) hav failed, and no clear consensus has been arrived at. If your talking about Policy editing guidelines, there *aren't* any rules or regulations, just guidelines about how a proposal should move through the process. The whole thing was put into place to open up the process of getting Policy changed. Clearly, standardization of this process was required for this to be done. Finally, Scott, I defy you to find a *single* instance when particpants have resorted to subterfuge or legalistic sophistry rather than a frank debate among peers? Of course, we welcome debate and critique. Specific references, cases, precendents, and examples would help your arguments greatly. There is a danger that we go too far (just as there's a danger that we don't go far enough); I think debate helps us find the middle way. -- .....Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]<URL:http://www.onShore.com/>
