Hi,
Stop lying, Marcus. No one is infringing the copyright law. I
am just suggesting a reorganiztion of information in debian. No one
is going to stop shipping the GPL in debian, it just will be in a
different place on the archive.
You fail to mention that one way of appeasing my arguments is
to allow stuff like the FSSTND in main, or atleast in verbatim.
BTW, your question is akin to: When shall you stop beating
your wife?
I am sorry you can't conduct a technical discussion in a
decorous and serious fashion. I do not think your tantrums and name
calling really deserve much more of a response.
>>"Marcus" == Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Marcus> Hello,
Marcus> [this mail is cross posted to debian-devel, as I think it is
Marcus> important for other developers to know what mischief is going
Marcus> on here on debian-policy. Follow up please to
Marcus> debian-policy. The whole thread can be read in debian-policy,
Marcus> too]
Mischief? The mischief is that you quote me out of context,
and you present an incomplete argument. Part of my article was merely
a refutation of what you said; I encourage people to read teh
archives and not trust Marcus's propoganda.
Marcus> This is breaking the copyright law and I disagree strongly.
Rubbish. Already, most binary packages point to
/usr/doc/copyright/GPL et al; and copyright law says nothing about
whether you have to have things on the same CD.
Marcus> Manojs suggestion ("on another CD") is an infringement of copyright
law.
You are wrong. If The packages merely refer to
/usr/doc/copyright/GPL, and Debian goes beyond one CD, that does not
make things illegal (as long as everything is still part of Debian).
Marcus> Most copyright licenses (all I know of) are *not* modificable. Manoj
things
Marcus> that this is not in accordance with the general freeness of
Marcus> the Debian main distribution, and therefore wants to have the
Marcus> licenses removed from the main distribution. This ignores the
Marcus> core difference between copyright documents and other works,
Marcus> as licenses *apply* to other works and are the only thing
Marcus> that grants us redistribution. Not shipping the license means
Marcus> not shipping at all.
Standards apply to other works too.
Anyway, the consensus, minus Marcus, seems to be drifting to
having a verbatim section. Marcus has lost it; dragging people in
debian-devel as his aguments seem to be loosing in debian-policy, and
accusing people of "mischief".
He seems to be the only person to object to a verbatim section
too, as far as I can see.
I shall leave the debian-devel list alone, and uninvolved in
this debate after this message. Read the archives of debian-policy if
you are interested in this issue.
manoj
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You know my heart keeps tellin' me, You're not a kid at thirty-three,
You play around you lose your wife, You play too long, you lose your
life. Some gotta win, some gotta lose, Goodtime Charlie's got the
blues.
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