Hi, Ok, that's it. You said the same thing about me on IRC, and I let it go. But in this forum, I feel I should respond. I resent the implication that I am a bare boned minimalist hick who is not upto date on tools and modern software.
I would have preferred to not voice this opinion, but I think I am entited to voice it after being insulted so in a public forum. >>"Christoph" == Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Christoph> Maybe we should also try to have developers who are up to Christoph> date on the tools and who use modern software. Up to date on tools? Use modern software? I work with CORBA, POSIX threads, DCE, XML (yes, XML), and am paid to be at the cutting edge of software development. I am uptoo modern software. I prefer to hand craft my packages, not use shoddy cookie citter approaches to my work. The reason I do not use the so called helper tools is one of quality: I prefer not to use shoddy tools. I did not use to use dpkg-buildpackage: I switched imeediately when it appeared: it is not shoddy software. I have yet to see the tools you extoll as being anything but. I have kept my opinions to myself, and let people make their own judgments, but if I am going to be called a backwards hick who does not keep upto date for not jumping on the bandwagon of third rate tools, I reserve the right to flame back. Christoph> AFAIK you are a bare essentialist and are resisting new Christoph> things that simplify packaging. Lets tolerate our Christoph> weaknesses and combine our strenghts. Zed is right and in Christoph> the best interest of excellence we need to combine our Christoph> knowlege which we can f.e through the bug tracking Christoph> system. Maybe someone does not know shell scripts too well Christoph> but is an expert in other areas. I am not a bare essentialist. I think I like not to trust my work on stuff that I can't trust. Sell scripts are not rocket science. Any computer programmer worth his/her salt should be able to put it together shortly (I don't think people need to know it a priori, but anyone who feels intimidated by and can not learn shell scripting should not be putting software on my machine) Sorry if this is not PC and touchy feely enough: but I have put in too much time into Debian to just let quality go. manoj, fuming -- "Ships don't come in, they're built." anon Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/> Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E