For semplicity, I've moved the "conclusion" of my proposal on top of this message. Rationale discussion follows below.
* distinguish between docs "about" a package and docs that "are" the package. * for "docs-about-the-package" use Schwarz's proposal: /usr/doc/<pkg>/LANG_<language>_<territory>/ or /usr/doc/<pkg>/LANG_<language>/ or /usr/doc/<pkg>/ * for "docs-that-are-the-package" I suggest using: /usr/doc/<doc-name>/<lang>/<format>/<type>/... This need policy or at least cooperation between involved maintainers. Rationale: Christian Schwarz wrote: > > The previous discussion on this topic made clear, that we still > have two groups of people, one that prefers having the files in > /usr/doc/LANG/<locale> and symlinks in /usr/doc/<pkg>, and one > that prefers having the files in /usr/doc/<pkg>/<locale>. If I remember well, that discussion was about some particular docs, and not for the general things we put in /usr/doc/<pkg> . In fact, I think we should distinguish on the "docs-about-the-package" that _must_ reside in /ust/doc/<pkg> and "docs-that-are-the-package" that installs in a "for-purpose" /usr/doc/<name> directory, like HOWTOs do. For "docs-about-the-package" I think that your proposal is optimal: > /usr/doc/<pkg>/LANG_<language>_<territory>/ > /usr/doc/<pkg>/LANG_<language>/ > /usr/doc/<pkg>/ In case of "docs-about-the-package" there's no need for /usr/doc/LANG/<locale>/<pkg> hierarchy or symlink. But when the package installs a huge amount of docs, or when the main purpose of the package is to only install docs, maybe splitted in more than one package, then we should consider a different structure. For example, we have several packages that installs HOWTOs (as well that debian-manuals, RFCs, etc.); each package should install the /usr/doc/<pkg> as usual with its copyright, changelog and debian.readme (as well as other files, with their proper names :-), descriptions and example, as well as their translations using the above scheme. All packages that installs docs related between them should agree on a <doc-name> to be used to build the hierarchy /usr/doc/<doc-name> to carry the docs, and all should use the same structure for the hierarchy, set by policy. HOWTOs actually follow this one (although maybe recently this has changed, but I don't know how, at the moment): doc-linux uses "HOWTO" as <doc-name> and make his hierarchy in /usr/doc/HOWTO doc-linux-<lang> uses "LANG/<lang>/HOWTO" as <doc-name> and puts files in /usr/doc/LANG/<lang>/HOWTO plus a symlink pointing from /usr/doc/HOWTO/<lang> to his own hierarchy. This was due to the fact that each package should have full control on the dirs he creates under /usr/doc . I suggest that all those packages use a common <doc-name> to put under /usr/doc (could be "linux" for HOWTOs and FAQs, "debian" for all debian manuals, "something-else" for RFCs, USENET-archives, etc.), and the hierarchy divided in <lang>/<format>: /usr/doc/linux/<lang>/<format>/<type> where <lang> includes en for english, <format> are "html", "text", "ps", "sgml" where appropriate, and <type> are particular for each group of package: "HOWTO", "FAQ", "mini-howto" for "linux", "policy", "developer", "user" for "debian", etc. <type> names, as well as <doc-names> are choosen collectively by maintainers of those packages, maybe after discussion on some list. Then each package installs each singular file in its proper place, in a way similar to that we already do for manpages. So, for example, we could have: /usr/doc/debian/ /usr/doc/debian/en/ /usr/doc/debian/en/text/ /usr/doc/debian/en/text/policy.text /usr/doc/debian/en/text/developers-reference.text /usr/doc/debian/en/sgml/ /usr/doc/debian/en/sgml/policy.sgml /usr/doc/debian/en/sgml/developers-reference.sgml /usr/doc/debian/en/html/ /usr/doc/debian/en/html/policy/ /usr/doc/debian/en/html/policy/index.html /usr/doc/debian/en/html/developers-reference/ /usr/doc/debian/en/html/developers-reference/index.html ...etc... as well as other languages. Note that some <format> holds files, while others hold directories. Obviously if a user installs only one format, the other <format> dirs will not be installed, as for languages. I know that the presence of the "en" language is annoying for most english users, but we need a polite structure in which every level has one and only one meaning. In fact I don't like the compromise that fsstnd permits for man hierarchy (and that debian adopted, because fsstnd didn't mandate) of having an "empty" english-language level. I would much more like an esplicit "en" level; it makes things simpler also for programs, and it's POSIX compliant. > > In the past, the policy about doc files has been changed: We used to > split up the doc files into different directories (/usr/doc/copyright, > /usr/doc/examples, /usr/doc/<pkg>, etc.). Now we place all > package-related documentation files below /usr/doc/<pkg>. > > In continuation of this policy I suggest to keep all documentation > files in one place: /usr/doc/<pkg>. I agree for package-related docs (because man's copyright belongs to man and not to "copyright"), but I am very annoyed because I never remember the <pkg> name of each debian-manual: I read them using the "file:" protocol, and I have both hamm and bo hierarchies mounted on my machine, and those manuals changed package name between bo and hamm, so I always have to search using dpkg -S :-) Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer & Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E > Just because Red Hat do it doesn't mean it's a good idea. [Ian J.]