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Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -------------------------------------- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 18 Jan 2005 09:49:57 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jan 18 01:49:57 2005 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from mailservice.tudelft.nl [130.161.131.5] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1Cqpzo-0000t9-00; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:49:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rav.antivirus (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9C122EEEA; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:49:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (x117.decis.nl [130.161.177.117]) by mx1.tudelft.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 822D722EF87; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:49:24 +0100 (CET) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3E6B610D5CD; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:48:58 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Debian Bug Tracking System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: 9.3.3.2 "command -v" example needs tweaking X-Mailer: reportbug 3.2 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:48:57 +0100 Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at tudelft.nl Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-8.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HAS_PACKAGE autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 X-Spam-Level: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.6.1.1 Severity: minor Section 9.3.3.2 gives this as an example of how to check for the availability of invoke-rc.d: > if command -v invoke-rc.d >/dev/null 2>&1; then 1. It would be helpful to mention that "command -v" is not POSIX and that therefore, to be consistent with section 10.4, this example should only be followed in scripts headed with "#!/bin/bash". If #218530 is ever implemented then this restriction can be dropped. 2. "command -v" in bash 3.0-5 sometimes prints pathnames of files on the PATH that aren't executable. To work around this, the example could be changed to something like this: if CMD="$(command -v invoke-rc.d 2>/dev/null)" && [ -x "$CMD" ] ; then Discussion ---------- I actually think that issue #2 is a bug in bash. Consider the following sequence of commands which illustrate that "command -v foo" prints the name of the first executable file "foo" it finds on the PATH, failing which it prints the first non-executable file "foo" it finds on the PATH. What sense does that make? If people agree then I'll file a bug report against bash. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $PATH /home/jdthood/bin:/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ command -v foo bash: command: foo: not found [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ touch /home/jdthood/bin/foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /home/jdthood/bin/foo -rw-r--r-- 1 jdthood jdthood 0 2005-01-18 10:40 /home/jdthood/bin/foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ command -v foo /home/jdthood/bin/foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo touch /usr/local/bin/foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ command -v foo /home/jdthood/bin/foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/foo -rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 0 2005-01-18 10:41 /usr/local/bin/foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo chmod ugo+x /usr/local/bin/foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/foo -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 0 2005-01-18 10:41 /usr/local/bin/foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ which foo /usr/local/bin/foo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ command -v foo /usr/local/bin/foo -- System Information: Debian Release: 3.1 APT prefers testing APT policy: (500, 'testing'), (50, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.9 Locale: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (charmap=ISO-8859-15) -- no debconf information --------------------------------------- Received: (at 291026-done) by bugs.debian.org; 18 Jun 2005 05:25:37 +0000 >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jun 17 22:25:37 2005 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from host-12-107-230-171.dtccom.net (glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com) [12.107.230.171] by spohr.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 1DjVpp-0004zu-00; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 22:25:37 -0700 Received: from glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com ([EMAIL PROTECTED] [127.0.0.1]) by glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id j5I5FkkW013934 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:15:46 -0500 Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id j5I5Fkkp013933; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:15:46 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: glaurung.internal.golden-gryphon.com: srivasta set sender to srivasta(va, manoj)@debian.org using -f From: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (va, manoj)> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Why is this a bug? Organization: The Debian Project User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACYAAAAwCAMAAABKbPgaAAAAM1BMVEUAAADIjH/0rp1KPz79 0b+ic2nlpJc2Ly2AY17VlYb4uqi2gHQXFBN2WVXgno5iT02Xa2Nx+jaIAAACVElEQVQ4jeWU23bj IAxFLUAggQX6/6+dI9LGTpo+9mlYiXNhc3TnOP50naZE0tqvgEk+soutnNfQ8yPTWMTENhNrjI+Y +N7POVt8tAzpn2vJlsmttbyfrdkP7hx5iezteGzsbOts7xT+tC1mcG+LtRP2X/16bEQExuyx1uZW vscrAWUT8aE0aDBeBuw8nS5u4WgWyDCllOZUBeyWgbWbGrBsTDpTx0qpphlcYPcgJLvBXFClPMg5 6WH2JidLIAaDF5aAed7uPTH4bjw0bZvfajp2tHc1F+cBm+Vr9YomGSwNhbmcczYEWUu5MBpYvCLV F+ZIKwQfYB+CBXnIRQFvIRhK6l96PemsFLEPFxi+MPxiTYH0Ave1InPsIYes3NJb42ytBSmmysyj lIQYHJm6Im1WbQ0kWMesKFRFPKTDzJ3GhWUn2KWKEkWlKthoACLm2eWJQQh2qKbAUgQxa+8TVjn1 aySm8656ookCfCc5TRzvnZ6YOu3NpHg+uR5YuRkNF/b5IHq5Y7Ve6c2+sR4hqIZ3+5DCt3ukh8Eo vFIXVJxqfMdbkd/BF3YaQkB/2RIUHPMS7RLVAHefrYzWZVQ/ei4peBsROFLi90ltQyvF5I05t4Zs L4C9DODJ2AZCUf8UitGjCIdfx15QQkfZibTOGT3edxns5fY6F2rstKcTwiiaJnQwvYkdzTlaTqNH IkSmGdLrON45tGsMNDoSYr4bxH5emHEFaoFjKBahHXFXfLx9cR9p6ejJXihuxPz57gWHZkWovbPl 9gsU8eImtBi++3D+f+sfT/Mg79fyEz8AAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-URL: http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/ Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Face: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/;Y^gTjR\T^"B'fbeuVGiyKrvbfKJl!^e|e:iu(kJ6c|QYB57LP*|t &YlP~HF/=h:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:6Cj0kd#4]>*D,|0djf'CVlXkI,>aV4\}?d_KEqsN{Nnt7 78"OsbQ["56/!nisvyB/uA5Q.{)gm6?q.j71ww.>b9b]-sG8zNt%KkIa>xWg&1VcjZk[hBQ>]j~`Wq Xl,y1a!(>6`UM{~'X[Y_,Bv+}=L\SS*mA8=s;!=O`ja|@PEzb&i0}Qp,`Z\:6:OmRi* X-Hashcash: 1:25:050618:[EMAIL PROTECTED]::+LNy0C4CMfnLgD7J:0000000000000000000000000000000002P+dm Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 00:15:46 -0500 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-CRM114-Score: -13.1141 X-CRM114-Status: Good ( pR: -13.1141 ) X-SA-Orig: -9.899, -13.1141 X-Spam-Value: -15.0720055555556 X-Grey: White X-SA-Rep: -15.0720055555556 ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00,HASHCASH_25 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang version 2.51 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) on 192.168.1.10 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (1.212-2003-09-23-exp) on spohr.debian.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no version=2.60-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 X-Spam-Level: Hi, Why should policy example follow some other code out there, especially if the examples shown in policy are correct? And it has not been shown that which messes up, command -v would work differently, but not which. Seems to me debhelper is doing an extra, unneeded stat, which is fine. I see no reason to emulate that, though, in an example. manoj -- There is nothing wrong with writing ... as long as it is done in private and you wash your hands afterward. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]