I've been keeping an eye on the situation with regards to icons in menu
entries for A/DeMuDi - The multimedia CDD. Most of you have read this before,
I apologise for not being used to the Debian mailing lists, I'm not
subscribed, so off-list replies will be appreciated. I hope I've actually
sent this to the right list this time.
My intention is to contact all the maintainers of apps included in DeMuDi that
don't appear to have icons and encourage them to include them - Most of this
needs to happen upstream, otherwise the distro will become full of temporary
hacks. Part of the hiatus has been caused by my realisation that Debian icon
policy is rather unclear.
Anyhow, I've posted my notes below. Suggestions welcome.
My hunt for a solution to this particular issue has led me thus far:
This is an open posting that I'm intending to send to all maintainers of
multimedia packages that don't appear to have icons. Please could you let me
know if I have my facts right. ;-] Does this need to go on one of the Debian
wikis. [If exist?]. Is it possible / worthwhile / necessary to change policy
in line with what I've suggested below (fairly close to existing policy). How
could I change it for the better?
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Many people have never been happy with the icons provided by debian.
There are not enough of them, they are inconsistent in style, and the
low resolution and limited colors make them look like escapees from
1989. Lots of users don't bother with them.
Debian needs a consistent policy on where icons go - the icon policy is still
"something to be addressed" in future Policy weeklys; however, the
few policy weeklys published since then don't seem to address it at
all.
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These guidelines are my attempt to address it from the perspective of
AGNULA/DeMuDi - a CDD. They are based on Debian Policy with a view to
incorporating freedesktop.org standards. I am only focussing on achieving
coherence amongst multimedia applications here, but it could equally apply to
all applications with menu entries.
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Please, make sure the icons you specify are always available on the system.
So, if you want to have an icon with your menu entry, the preferred method is
to supply the icon with that package. Also, to prevent the distribution of
icons files to turn too much into a mess, please put all icon files in the
directory /usr/share/pixmaps - It's all static shareable
architecture-independent data.
The use of /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/ for .XPMs seems to be deprecated,
but some packages still use it. KDE keeps its icons (mostly .PNGs) in a
sorted-by-theme tree based at /usr/share/icons. Most other WMs read .XPMs out
of /usr/share/pixmaps this latter is the standard.
A package should provide a menu file /usr/lib/menu/<package-name> that
contains information about each program it likes to make available in the
menus.
?package(ecasound2.2):needs=text section=Apps/Sound\
title="ecasound2.2" command="/usr/bin/ecasound -c" \
icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/ecasound.xpm" \
icon16x16="/usr/share/pixmaps/eca_16.xpm" \
icon32x32="/usr/share/pixmaps/eca_32.xpm"
You may also want to include a .desktop file using the freedesktop.org defined
Desktop Entry Standard. [I don't know enough about this yet.]
1. The icons should be in XPM format. Icons may also be provided in .PNG
format for future compatibility with freedesktop.org standards.
2. The icons (.XPMs) may not be larger than 32x32 pixels, although smaller
sizes are ok. 48x48 or even larger may be acceptable for .PNGs. This
restriction applies only to icons referenced
from /usr/lib/menu/<package-name> for application menus.
[KDE and GNOME seem to use 16x16 icons which requires an icon16x16 entry in
the package's /usr/lib/menu file. It is possible to provide both 16x16 and
32x32 pixel icons using the variables icon16x16 and icon32x32 so that the
user can configure menu to use one or the other.]
3. The background area of the icon should be transparent, if possible.
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Additionally:
Apparently it's also possible to specify an icon for a sub-menu. However, if
each package would supply its own icons for the sub menus we can never be
sure that the icon files are available. Thus, only the menu package is
allowed to specify icons for sub menus. The syntax for this is:
X11 Apps menu/apps /usr/share/pixmaps/icon.xpm "Editors"
The other problem specific to A/DeMuDi is that having an independent top-level
'Sound' or 'Audio' menu section breaks Debian Menu Policy.
I have designed a set of generic sound-application group icons, which could be
used more widely. Free has converted them to .XPMs and they may be freely
used (of course) by maintainers who do not wish to design their own, for
whatever reason.
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Any responses would be useful to me, even if just to say that this would cause
too much confusion or that it could be better discussed elsewhere. I really
would like to move on with this.
cheers,
--tim
http://glastonburymusic.org.uk/tim
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