On 2022-02-17 19:13:08 +0100, Reimar Döffinger wrote:
> 
> > On 16 Feb 2022, at 23:25, Sebastian Ramacher <sramac...@debian.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Let's stop pretending that mplayer is maintained.
> 
> What is your criteria for "maintained"? In Debian or upstream? Upstream 
> issues are still addressed from time to time, there are still several people 
> around that can address issues, in particular security issues.

It's definitely not maintained in Debian. Looking at the recent history
of mplayer uploads, I did most of them without any bug triaging. So
that's not what I would consider mplaer being maintained.

If you want to pick up maintenance of mplayer in Debian, please feel
free do that.

> > The upstream mailing
> > list infrastructure is gone
> 
> I have absolutely no idea why you claim that.
> It's there and working.

Yesterday evening lists.mplayerhq.hu failed to resolve. Otherwise I
would have forwarded the build failure with ffmpeg 5.0. In the end, this
will need to be fixed for bookworm.

Cheers

> 
> > and development has been minimal over the
> > last couple of months and years.
> 
> It's mostly in maintenance mode I guess.
> There might be Debian users who don't mind their software changing radically 
> as long as it keeps doing what they've used it for the previous years...
> 
> > So I think we should not include
> > mplayer in bookworm. mpv is a worthy replacement for mplayer.
> 
> Possibly, though it's not a drop-in replacement (different command-line) and 
> supposedly it aims more at modern computers, so might not be so great a 
> replacement for legacy hardware.
> 
> Best regards,
> Reimar Döffinger

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Sebastian Ramacher

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