Anyhow finally we can say that dead upstream requests are out of
interests/needs or even not in a need or require my work on packaging it and
it's better to search for these alternative packages/Live-requests for a
required work.

On 12/31/06, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:23:26 +0200
"Eng. Mina Ramses" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >Even then, there is no guarantee that jing will be accepted into Debian
> >- it is whether you (or the maintainer) can generate sufficient
> >interest in the package on this list or you or the maintainer apply to
> >become a DD yourself and go through that process (currently at least a
> >year). Sponsorship depends on catching the attention of an interested
> >sponsor - there certainly does not appear to have been sufficient
> >interest so far. You have to convince a DD that there is a role for
> >jing in Debian.
>
>  Can't recognize the need to become a DD in a relation with generating
> interest for such a package unless that the DD is the controller of
> accepting or to be interested in accepting such a package.

If you or the maintainer are going to apply to be a DD, you would
assume control of this package yourself, yes. If not, you need to catch
the interest of an existing DD who can act as sponsor. The sponsor is
likely to want evidence of how this package improves on existing
alternatives and some kind of assurance that the upstream work will be
done by the maintainer.

> >There are alternative packages already available - the
> >request for sponsorship should make it clear why this package is
> >superior to what already exists. This can be difficult with a package
> >that is dead upstream.
>
> At the time there're alternative packages already available and maybe
> superior, and that the package already is dead upstream, why there exist
> such packages requests

The package request (the RFP bug) exists because someone wanted it some
time ago but that bug is now closed so they appear to have lost
interest. The bug report itself hangs around because other people may
come along later and be willing to take on the dead upstream AND
package the software - they would presumably have ideas on how the
software could be improved to make it a worthwhile addition to the
archive. There's always room for improvement.

> by the system and no way to control the packaging
> purposes that may have been full filed by these alternatives which leads
to
> remove crossed in purpose requests .

The fact that the RFP is closed should be sufficient indicator that
there is some form of alternative or that the need for the package was
not as great as originally thought - or possibly that the package
simply doesn't work. There's no need to remove the RFP - it is up to
prospective maintainers to find out what is going on with a particular
package before looking to resurrect it.

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