On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 09:52:51AM +0100, Fredrik Steen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 07:01:19PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > | > You must have heard many times by now that Debian is a volunteer effort, > and > | > things are done on a time-available basis. > | > | Of course we all know this. But the question is really one of bottlenecking, > | not of not enough available time of Debian as a whole. > | > | The whole reason that Debian exists (IMO) is that designing and tayloring > | an operating system from scratch is too time consuming (by far) for any > | one person. Debian seeks to collect the work of many and distribute the > | benefits to many more. The application process should be no different. > | If the the position of the DAM is too time consuming of a job, there should > | be a panel of people who share this responsibility. > | > | What bothers me most about the delays in the NM queue are their > | capriciousness. I got through the process relatively quickly (about three > | months or so, a fair time), but others have no such luck. And it is luck, > | not [always] lack trying on their part. > | > | The initial part of the process is fair. People queue up in cronological > | order and have their applications selected by one of a pool of possible > | application managers. AM's should adjust the number of open cases they're > | handling to fit their available free time. If an AM becomes unable to > | process an applicant within a reasonable reasonable response time (say > | two weeks of overhead beyond delays the fault of the applicant) then the > | applicant should be returned to the AM queue. It's not right that one AM > | should hold up one applicant while others who applied months later are > | getting through. As far as I know, there's no mechanism for an applicant > | to be returned to the queue. > | > | > You don't need to be a maintainer in order to help Debian. > | > | Of course not. Even though I've only recently become a DD, I've been an > | active unofficial member in the Debian community since late 1995. > | But when such a person as myself decides to step forward and take on > | additional responsibilities associated with being a DD, it doesn't make > | sense to deny him or her that title for reasons of poor time management. > | > | Don't underestimate the importance of being an official developer. > | It's true that you can get packages sponsered and "help Debian" without > | it, but it can have a large effect on morale. Being an official DD, gives > | me a stronger tie to the project. It affects the way *I feel* about the > | work that I do. To me, that's more important than an account or an > | email address. > | > | Eric > | > | > > Hi, > > My case: > > Received application: 2000-05-15 > Application Manager Assigned: akumria assigned on 2000-08-21 > ID Check: Passed at 2000-10-12 > Philosophy and Procedures Check: Passed at 2000-10-13 > Tasks and Skills Check: Passed at 2000-10-12 > Application Manager recomends to DAM: YES (But not anymore read below) > > Application Manager Comments > - must send DAM docs > > Debian Account Manager Comments > err.. would be nice, yes. AM: please reapprove when you have report ready. > > Stopped here.. Haven't heard from anyone since: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 00:06:51 > +1100 > > I have sent 3 mails to Mr Akumira with no response. Anyone know where he is?
In Australia, at home. Recovering. Having just finished organising a conference over here (see <URL: http://linux.conf.au/>) I've had a number of things take a much higher priority recently. Unfortunately much of the conference related things I have to do won't finish until Tuesday/Wednesday (most of the speakers will have returned then) and I can get back on track with your application and other Debian related things. Anand -- I close my eyes, only for a moment and the moment's gone All my dreams, pass before my eyes a curiosity Dust in the wind, All we are is dust in the wind Don't hang on, nothing lasts forever but the earth and sky Dust in the Wind -- Kansas, Don Kirshner
