On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 09:23:49AM +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> On 12/02/2025 23:57, Michel Lind wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > libkdumpfile has recently released version 0.5.5, which despite the
> > version number, actually contains an soname bump from 0.5.4
> > 
> > https://github.com/ptesarik/libkdumpfile/releases/tag/v0.5.5
> > 
> > See e.g. the relevant Fedora packaging change
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/libkdumpfile/c/c0097ea1c69462b6bb151d186ff4856663c5b7e4?branch=rawhide
> > 
> > The soname bump is fine in itself - I'll change the name of the binary
> > subpackage containing the shared library files, and the upload will need
> > to be done by a full Debian Developer and subject to FTP master review
> > (IIRC, please correct me if I'm wrong).
> > 
> > *But* upstream also decided to drop the legacy Python bindings right
> > after 0.5.5 is out, and instead recommending the separate pykdumpfile
> > (which they also maintain)
> > 
> > https://github.com/ptesarik/pykdumpfile
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-pykdumpfile
> > 
> > So rather than keeping the Python bindings in 0.5.5 I figured might as
> > well drop the Python bindings immediately and package the new one.
> > 
> > This needs to be built against the correct libkdumpfile, so I'm a bit
> > unsure about the sequencing - in Fedora my sequence was:
> > 
> > - package the new libkdumpfile, make it obsolete the old Python
> >    subpackage so upgrades work but result in the Python subpackage being
> >    removed
> > - then package pykdumpfile
> > 
> > I could have done both in a side tag and avoided having a time where the
> > Python bindings are not available, but the way Python packages are
> > generated in Fedora, if the package name changes the virtual provides
> > they generate change anyway, so pykdumpfile won't be a drop in
> > replacement even though it ships exactly the same Python module names.
> > 
> > For Debian - since we already require FTP master review for the soname
> > bump, it seems to make even more sense to also drop the old Python
> > bindings and avoid requiring a re-review when 0.5.6 comes out.
> > 
> > The question is - is it OK to have unstable temporarily miss the Python
> > bindings? And should I preserve the upgrade path or let people keep the
> > old Python bindings? (so apt-upgrade will skip updating libkdumpfile)?
> > 
> > Or is there a way, say build the new libkdumpfile in experimental with
> > the Python bindings disabled, get the new pykdumpfile reviewed and also
> > built in experimental, then get them both promoted to unstable?
> 
> That is exactly how you should do it.
> 
> Alternatively:
> 
> - upload the new libkdumpfile with python bindings to experimental
> - once it clears new, upload to unstable (beware of the transition, so maybe
> request a transition slot by doing `reportbug release.debian.org')
> - upload libkdumpfile again to experimental without python bindings
> - upload pykdumpfile to experimental
> - once pykdumpfile clears NEW, upload both to unstable
> 
Ah, OK, so these uploads all require FTP master review right?

- soname bump to 0.5.5 in experimental
- initial upload of the new pykdumpfile in experimental
- dropping python bindings in experimental
- 0.5.5 without python in unstable (or can I as a DM do this myself?)
- pykdumpfile in unstable

If a package that's been cleared for experimental can be uploaded to
unstable without FTP master review, even if it has binary subpackage
name changes, that would simplify this quite a bit (but if it requires
re-review, that's fine too, I just have to know how much to coordinate
with the DD sponsoring the upload)

Thanks Emilio!


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