On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 07:40:31PM -0500, John Belmonte wrote: > It turned out he agreed to omit the debian tree from his tarballs at my > request, but I also suggested he could just rename the directory to > debian_sample. In this way there would be no interference with my work, > and he could keep debian_sample loosely synchronized as he saw fit.
i don't see the need for this seperation. it suggests that debian maintainer and upstream should not work in unison, but keep their work seperate. why is that? in an ideal situation upstream would be built in such a way that there are no debian specific patches necessary. fixes found by debian users could and should be included in the upstream code anyways. usefull seperation of code, to make use of existing library packages, or changes for fhs compliancy are good for upstream too. the only real difference would be the build process where upstream may have to go through hoops and jumps to satisfy dependencies while the debian build process is much simpler because locations of dependant things are known. the debian maintainer could be seen as part of the upstream team, only being responsible for the debian build part of it just like the rest of the upstream team, where different people may be responsible for different parts. that approach would avoid some of the flamewars between upstream and debian maintainers, that we have seen in the past... ideally debian packages and all other form of release (rpm, tarball) would be done at the same time. with debian maintainer and the rest working together, a complete release in all package variants could be done at once, and lessen the headache for all, when it comes to handling the bugreports for different versions of a package... i don't like to get told by upstream to forget the debian package and use the tarball, because the debian maintainer doesn't keep up. that should not be necessary. if upstream is inviting to put the debian/ tree in their cvs, then they are showing a will to cooperate that should be taken advantage of. getting upstream to understand and cooperate with debian issues should actually make the work of the debian maintainer easier, and then, the debian/ tree woudln't really risk getting out of sync with the rest. greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system administration anywhere in the world. -- pike programmer working in europe csl-gmbh.net open-steam.org (www.archlab|(www|db).hb2).tuwien.ac.at unix bahai.or.at iaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).org is.(schon.org|root.at) Martin Bähr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]