Hi Yaroslav! 😁

Yes, as I said earlier in the thread, we've separated those concerns (the
app and the lib) making it:
- easier for people, especially linux users, that only want the lib (they
just install psychopy)
- not *much* harder to use the wx app (install psychopy-app) which we tend
to call Standalone
- easier for us to package only the parts we need (the lib) into the new
Electron app (Studio)

>From a packaging perspective, doing an install from `psychopy-app` should
achieve pretty much identical results as previously installing from
`psychopy` repo - it installs all depedencies of both. Yes, you still
launch the app by calling `psychopy` and internally the cross-linking of
the code between the two should be seamless to the user. So re-using
previous work to build the Standalone app should be easy.

Should you switch to building Studio instead of PsychoPy Studio? We will
eventually replace the app but we plan to support both for another year or
so until we're confident that Studio is fully feature complete (e.g. right
now it doesn't have built-in demos) and robust. In most ways it's superior
to the old Python/wx app, but it's still a very new codebase so we're
calling it the "beta" option for now. I guess the question is for you
whether you want to support beta and/or deprecated packages

Happy to jump on a call if that would help to clarify.

Best wishes,
Jon


On September 21, 2026 at 1:51 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko ([email protected]) wrote:

Hi Jon,

LONG TIME no byte or beer exchange! I hope you are doing splendid across
the pond and our paths would still cross in real-life some time!

It seems that the issue is that we package sources from

https://github.com/psychopy/psychopy

but they are insufficient to run psychopy "app", and we also need
to package

https://github.com/psychopy/psychopy-app

since that is what it relies on to start the `psychopy` overall. BUT on
that github repo description it says

    This is the code for the Python-written PsychoPy Application (now being
replace by PsychoPy Studio)

so I decided to ask -- what is the status of that Studio and either we
should look into psychopy-app packaging or right away go after that
studio? (I guess https://github.com/psychopy/psychopy-studio ).

Cheers


On Mon, 14 Sep 2026, Jon Peirce wrote:

Package builds fine from Git in pbuilder but once you install the

package and call the binary its crashing.That is the sort of thing my team
might be able to help with. Is there
anything in
~/.psychopy3/last_app
?
Best wishes,
Jon

-- Yaroslav O. Halchenko
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