Thank you very much Andreas!

That was a very nice welcome! I will read carefully everything you wrote
and the documents you suggested. I will look for something interesting to
work on in the tasks page to get started.

I look forward to start contributing to this project! \o/

I will certainly try to join the next sprints of DebianMed so we will
finally be able to meet AFK.

Kind Regards.

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Raony Guimarães Corrêa Do Carmo Lisboa Cardenas
PhD in Bioinformatics

email: [email protected]
skype/gtalk: raonyguimaraes
phone: +55 31 93404152

Laboratory of Clinical Genomics
UFMG School of Medicine
Federal University of Minas Gerais - UFMG
Av. Prof. Alfredo Balena, 190, Sala 321
Belo Horizonte, Brazil 30130-100
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Andreas Tille <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Raony,
>
> thanks for your interest in Debian Med.  I would prefer if we could move
> the discussion to [email protected] since we are a strong team
> and it is not only me.  So please if you answer quote me on the list.
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 01:48:42PM +0100, Raony Guimaraes Corrêa Do Carmo
> Lisboa Cardenas wrote:
> > After discussing a bit with Tim, he suggested that I could help you with
> > building the package for STACKS.
> >
> > How is the development going and how can I help you with that?
> >
> > I see on the new tracker https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/stacks some todo
> > things:
> >
> >
> >    - Lintian <http://lintian.debian.org> reports 3 warnings
> >    <
> http://lintian.debian.org/maintainer/[email protected]#stacks
> >
> >    about this package. You should make the package *lintian clean*
> getting
> >    rid of them.
> >    - The package should be updated to follow the last version of Debian
> >    Policy <https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/> (Standards-Version
> >    3.9.6
> >    <
> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.html#s-3.9.6.0
> >
> >    instead of 3.9.7
> >    <
> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/upgrading-checklist.html#s-3.9.7.0
> >).
>
> The above issues are really minor ones.  The Stanrds-Version bump is done
> at every new upload to the latest version - no need to act only for this.
>
> A real problem is that stacks is not migrating to Debian testing which I
> realised right now.  I'll send an according posting to the Debian Med
> mailing list for clarification since I do not understand myself.  Please
> subscribe the list and join the discussion.  (BTW, you can also browse
> the public archive of the list[1].)
>
> > Problems while searching for a new upstream version
> > high
> > uscan had problems while searching for a new upstream version:
> >
> > No upstream tarball downloaded.  No further processing with mk_origtargz
> ...
>
> I can't see any problem with uscan - may be a temporary issue.  Stacks
> is up to date with current upstream.  May way to seek for "work to do"
> is to check out so called "tasks page" for topic biology[2] and check
> for outdated versions - you see a yellow button saying "Newer upstream!"
> and than you can work on this.
>
> > I will download the source package, try to play a bit with it and try to
> > build it myself.
>
> The easiest way to get the full Debian information is to use
> debcheckout.  I'd strongly advise to read the Debian Med policy
> document[3] which explains it in detail.
>
> > Do you have some request or some tip for me ?
>
> You might like to learn packaging inside Debian Med team by taking part
> in "Mentoring of the Month"[4].  As target software I would be really
> happy about packages that are in Bio-Linux but not yet in Debian Med.
> Tim has explained the principle pretty well and the potential candidates
> are on the tasks page[2] marked somewhere with the string "bio-linux".
> You will find some candidates that might need some work and once the
> package arrived inside official Debian the maintenance effort inside
> Bio-Linux will be reduced to a bare minimum.
>
> > Raony Guimarães Corrêa Do Carmo Lisboa Cardenas
> > PhD in Bioinformatics
>
> Greatings to Lisboa. :-)
>
> > On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Tim Booth <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Andreas has been updating the package in Debian Med but he'd appreciate
> > > some help.  It's quite a nice one to work on:
> > >
> > > https://packages.debian.org/sid/stacks
>
> It must have been some time ago when I needed help.  I do not even
> remember and I'm to lazy to web-search the topic. :-)  The only issue is
> that it is not in testing yet[5] - but this very issue will not affect
> Bio-Linux since it derives from Ubuntu which in turn fetches unstable
> and not testing.
>
> > > Try downloading the source package, building it, and updating it.
> Make a
> > > PPA for yourself on Launchpad.net and try pushing the new version on
> to it.
>
> If you ask me I would prefer working on the Debian Med Git repository
> rather than a PPA.  If there might be any changes needed We are quick in
> uploading to Debian unstable.
>
> > > Doing this will make a lot of the mechanics of package building much
> > > clearer.
> > >
> > > With packages like STACKS, what I used to do is to push updates to
> Debian
> > > Med then backport them into Bio-Linux.  It sounds like more work but
> > > actually the workflow is very logical.
>
> The "more work" is spread over several strong shoulders.  Unfortunately
> Tim did not joined our last sprint but in its consequence we've
> strengthened our team even further.  We have even more Debian Developers
> now and even more Debian Maintainers all equiped with upload
> permissions.  I had a really great vacation in Iceland[6] but from a
> Debian Med perspective the greatest thing was that the flow uf uploads
> did not stopped while I was AFK. :-)
>
> > > Given that packages flow from
> > > Debian Sid to Ubuntu and that 16.04 is not yet released you have the
> > > opportunity to get stuff into 16.04 this way, without the need for a
> > > special Bio-Linux package.
>
> +1
>
> Its not even that you do not need a special package.  We are striving
> for fully tested packages for all Debian Med packages in a GSoC project.
> So packages inside Debian Med will be tested periodically - IMHO an
> important feature for scientists.
>
> > > So what I'm trying to say is that, at this point in time, the best way
> to
> > > help Bio-Linux is to help Debian and join the efforts of Debian Med,
> > > because then your work will go right into the Ubuntu release (as a
> Universe
> > > package).
>
> +1
>
> > > Can't wait to see Biolinux 9 happening!
> > >
> > > Honestly, there may never be a Bio-Linux 9.  If I can't re-boot the
> > > project then I'll spend my efforts on more focused contributions to
> Debian
> > > Med.  I'd suggest you do the same - it's a great community to get
> involved
> > > with.
>
> I personally admit that I'd consider this a consequent and sensible
> move.  Due to the higher man-power inside the Debian Med team we did
> some heavy backporting to the latest Debian stable release.  Since
> scientists will probably use a stable (in Ubuntu terms LTS) release
> they need some more modern tools.  This is done by official backports
> and we have the main things backported now (I would also backport
> stacks - but it needs to migrate to testing first).
>
> In short:
>
>   - please read Debian Med policy[3]
>   - show up on the list[1] (and answer there to this mail!)
>   - consider MoM
>   - have fun with the Debian Med team
>
> Kind regards
>
>         Andreas.
>
>
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-med/
> [2] http://blends.debian.org/med/tasks/bio
> [3] https://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/docs/policy.html
> [4] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMed/MoM
> [5] https://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=stacks
> [6] http://fam-tille.de/island2016
>
> --
> http://fam-tille.de
>

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