Hi Markus, On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 01:18:29PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote: > > [adding Raphael / Freexian to CC] [dropping events@d.o, adding debian-lts]
> Am 31.05.2018 um 08:08 schrieb Joost van Baal-Ilić: > > > > [non-public reply, feel free to quote me publicly though] > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 04:18:06PM +0200, Markus Koschany wrote to > > debian-public...@lists.debian.org, debian-l10n-engl...@lists.debian.org, > > debian-i...@lists.debian.org : > >> > >> the LTS team would like to announce the end of Wheezy LTS. Unfortunately > >> I have no rights to push to the announcements repository on > >> salsa.debian.org but you can find my draft at > >> > >> https://people.debian.org/~apo/2018-06-01-Debian-7-Long-Term-Support-reaching-end-of-life.wml > >> > > > > Thanks for your contribution. Imho it would be even better if freexian.com > > would not be mentioned in the announcement: afaik there's no formal > > endorsement of Debian for Freexian. (I'd like to add freexian does great > > work, btw!) > > > > Something like > > > > "A subset of Wheezy packages might be supported by some external parties. > > Refer to https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/ for more information." > > > > would be better. > > This also came up on debian-lts [1]. Perhaps we should better > communicate that Extended LTS will benefit all Debian users? At any rate > it is certain that ELTS will happen now. I think we would rather prefer > a straight forward sentence like the current > > A subset of Wheezy packages will be supported by Freexian though. > Detailed information can be found at <a > href="https://deb.freexian.com/extended-lts">Extended LTS</a>. Now that I've read that webpage stuff is more clear to me. > I could change the first sentence to "A subset of Wheezy packages will > be supported by external parties though. They will be made available for > all Debian users." > > IMO if we change the other sentence to "Refer to > https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/ for more information." we just create one > more diversion but the fact remains the same, ELTS is managed by > Freexian. I don't have a strong opinion though. I could live with either > way. > [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2018/05/msg00074.html I don't think we ever before suggested our users to use services supplied by external companies in our general public announcements. I am not yet sure what's the wisest thing to do here. Referring to the wiki feels more safe. Maybe anybody else has some insights to share? Time is running out and I can't invest much more time in this now... :( Thanks for your reply, Bye, Joost