Hi Peter I use live-build to create my isos and I have a small explanation of what I do here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/linnix/files/
I'm not suggesting that you use what I have created, but it might help fill in some of the blanks in the documentation. I found the documentation very difficult to understand. I always hoped that they might create some worked examples, as I found the small examples in the docs too small to connect all the dots to get what I wanted. Cheers On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:47 AM, Peter.Stein <peter.st...@comcast.net> wrote: > I actually had a bunch of comments, but suspected they would not be well > received and thus tried to be diplomatic and productive by suggesting a > step-by-step HOWTO. It's needed, everyone knows what one is, and shouldn't > be difficult to put together by the live-build experts. You wanted an > improvement suggestion and I gave you a very "actionable" one. I'm always > reluctant to get into these "improvement" discussions because the fact of > the matter is you open source folks don't take constructive criticism very > well and invariably end up copping an attitude - like you are now. I've > developed software professionally for 35 years and can state unequivocally > that this documentation does not meet the "production grade" standard. I > hear what you're saying about limited resources and community efforts, but > as the old saying goes "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". At > some point somewhat needs to step back, take a deep breath, and do an > honest assessment to determine what if any improvements are needed. Griping > from the user community should not be the impetus for change. That's my > $.02. ;-) > Cheers. > > On 01/01/17 13:09, Ben Armstrong wrote: > > On January 1, 2017 2:26:58 PM "Peter.Stein" <peter.st...@comcast.net> > <peter.st...@comcast.net> wrote: > > > I eventually figured out by trial and error how to get the iso to build. > > Not because of the documentation, but in spite of it. The resulting iso > > won't boot via GRUB2, but that's a GRUB issue not a live-build issue. > > HOWTOs are commonplace in the linux world. That's an obvious way to > > improve the body of documentation for live-build. > > > > Each chapter of live-manual covers "how to" customize different aspects of > live-build. The section on local package lists, which is the closest > equivalent to the old command-line option, is here: > > https://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/live-manual/stable/ > manual/html/live-manual.en.html#409 > > I'll be the first to admit that this documentation is not perfect: a > documentation writer's job is never done and there's always room for > improvement, but so far you have not made any actionable suggestions for > making it better. Unfortunately, we're at an impasse. We cannot make the > doc any better if you won't tell us, specifically, what about it didn't > work for you. > > Ben > p.s. Although I contributed to the authorship of this doc considerably > before my retirement, it was a group effort, all done by volunteers like > me, so credit for its good bits goes to the whole group. I'm sure you > understand that group authorship can sometimes lack the coherence of > single-authored documents, but we had a lot of material to cover, and > worked with what meagre resources we had. I doubt if any of the remaining > team is interested in this point at a complete rewrite (though really, > that's entirely up to them,) so it will have to be incremental > improvements. Your cavalier dismissal of the whole work of the doc as > "incomprehensible" coupled with your refusal to give us anything concrete > to work with to improve it disinclines me to help anymore. Good luck. > > >
