---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Charles Chambers <ccha...@gmail.com> Date: Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 8:55 AM Subject: Re: Basic documentation To: Tom & Karen Pino <metalsm...@rangeweb.net>
There are four steps not documented: 1). Make the media writeable. 2). Where *exactly* to copy preseed.cfg. Ideally it would copy to the root of /dev/sdx2 on the media, which should then mount during booting, and the install look for it there, but... 3). Make the media read-only again. 4). Make the media bootable. Charlie ========= On Jul 30, 2016 8:42 AM, "Tom & Karen Pino" <metalsm...@rangeweb.net> wrote: > The package live-manual is also available in the repos for Stable, Testing > and Sid with the appropriate manual for each version. > Packages available for testing and sid are currently at the same version > number. > > Can't personally say how it works out as I have not used it since > Squeeze. > > On 07/29/2016 11:42 AM, Pablo Brasero Moreno wrote: > > No worries, I understand. However, for completeness and to avoid > misunderstanding, I'll point out that the manual does exist, although not > at its original location but at > <http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/live-manual/stable/manual/html/live-manual.en.html> > http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/live-manual/stable/manual/html/live-manual.en.html > In fact your question is answered in section 6.2. > > But yes, it's unfortunate that this whole sorry episode took place in the > first place and left the project in this state. Here's to live-wrapper to > take its place sooner than later, so that we can forget it. Some > documentation is being produced at the moment, so that's heartening: > https://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/live-wrapper-doc Thanks to the team > working on it. > > On 29 July 2016 at 18:21, Charles Chambers <ccha...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, Pablo: >> >> I appreciate the response, but I'm holding out for updated documentation >> everyone can find and use. >> >> Charlie >> >> =========== >> >> On Jul 29, 2016 6:28 AM, "Pablo Brasero Moreno" <pa...@pablobm.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Charles, I think I can help you with that: >>> https://github.com/pablobm/w2c3-livecd/commit/aa2c0657204e8bd70f4393dc98dee328f04fb041 >>> >>> >>> On 29 July 2016 at 14:21, Charles Chambers < <ccha...@gmail.com> >>> ccha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> And I could never find a step by step set of instructions to create a >>>> preseeded install medium from a Debian live image that included the nonfree >>>> repository. Such a medium would have been a restore USB thumb drive for a >>>> laptop, to include wifi drivers from which to run the install entirely from >>>> wifi instead of having to use an Ethernet connection. >>>> >>>> The documentation needs to be available and updated. >>>> >>>> My $0.02. >>>> >>>> Charlie >>>> >>>> =============== >>>> >>>> On Jul 29, 2016 5:59 AM, "Pablo Brasero Moreno" <pa...@pablobm.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Brian, >>>>> >>>>> *** Re: the lack of documentation >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, November 2015 saw a drama surrounding Debian Live. You >>>>> can get a summary at <https://lwn.net/Articles/665839/> >>>>> https://lwn.net/Articles/665839/ >>>>> >>>>> From a user's point of view, the upside is that a new tool is being >>>>> developed, and debian-live will still be available in the mean time. The >>>>> downside is that the original site is gone and the documentation is a bit >>>>> difficult to find. I personally read it at >>>>> <http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/live-manual/stable/manual/html/live-manual.en.html> >>>>> http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/live-manual/stable/manual/html/live-manual.en.html >>>>> >>>>> *** Re: keyboard layouts >>>>> >>>>> I haven't played much with that, but I think it might be possible with >>>>> a preseed config? See an example here on lines 3-4 (where I had to comment >>>>> it out because not all keyboards at my place are the same): >>>>> <https://github.com/pablobm/w2c3-livecd/blob/master/config/includes.binary/install/preseed.cfg> >>>>> https://github.com/pablobm/w2c3-livecd/blob/master/config/includes.binary/install/preseed.cfg >>>>> >>>>> *** /lib/live/mount/medium >>>>> >>>>> No idea. What do you want to do? >>>>> >>>>> *** Re: CDs being from the past >>>>> >>>>> My undestanding is that the new tool will have that aspiration, but >>>>> I'm not actually following it, so take my word with a pinch of salt. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29 July 2016 at 13:37, Brian Wengel < <m40636...@gmail.com> >>>>> m40636...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear debian-live team >>>>>> >>>>>> I can't find any documentation about Debian Live? >>>>>> E.g. what's the username and password?.....I did find it on Google >>>>>> after some time...but that should not be source of the most basic and >>>>>> vital >>>>>> information. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another simple questions is how to change keyboard layout. I expect >>>>>> at least half of the users of Debian Live uses a different layout.....it >>>>>> would be nice if it was more easy to change for all of us. >>>>>> I did found a way to change it on Google (but nothing I will be able >>>>>> to remember)....so now I need to keep a note together with my Live USB >>>>>> key! >>>>>> I never found a way to make it persistent.though. >>>>>> Can I edit a file in /lib/live/mount/medium? >>>>>> As the vast majority do use a writeable medium (USB flash) and not a >>>>>> read-only CD-ROM...it would be nice if it was more easy to change >>>>>> persistently. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another thing: >>>>>> I guess no one use CD-ROMs these days.....I haven't had a drive in my >>>>>> laptops for MANY years! >>>>>> Maybe it's time to stop aiming Debian Live to a CD-ROM media, and >>>>>> stop using it in titles, guide etc. At least not as the >>>>>> primary media/option....we moved to USB flash drives many years ago ;-) >>>>>> When I read the limited pages and documentation about Live, it's >>>>>> almost as USB flash keys are a brand new technology that most people >>>>>> haven't started using yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks.in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Brian >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Pablo Brasero Moreno >>>>> pa...@pablobm.com >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Pablo Brasero Moreno >>> pa...@pablobm.com >>> >> > > > -- > Pablo Brasero Moreno > pa...@pablobm.com > > > -- > -- Charlie ccha...@gmail.com
