Ok thanks, I'll work through my different lists now to see where I can
minimise this.


On 28 June 2013 18:57, Ben Armstrong <sy...@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca> wrote:

> On 27/06/13 10:54 PM, Michael . wrote:
> > By your reply it seems the udebs are required regardless
> > of what installer is used. Is this correct?
>
> Yes, and the live installer has less overhead than the standard
> installer, but it is still a significant amount of space.
>
> > I only want a live system
> > that can be installed. I don't want the installer to "pull packages"
> > from a pool like a regular installer if I can stop it. Is this possible
> > with Debian Live?
>
> The udebs are for bootstrapping the install, so those are required to
> make the installer work. That's non-negotiable.
>
> >>It's not wasted if you really do want the installer.
> >
> > What about the debs (not the udebs)? are they also required?
>
> The installer needs some debs as well. While the installer uses the live
> system itself instead of a normal bootstrap to do a "live" install,
> other things after that stage depend on choices the user makes and, as I
> understand it, are where the debs come into play.
>
> Together, the udebs and debs make up about 119M on i386 or 92M on amd64
> for our prebuilt wheezy gnome images. I have not yet measured them on
> the other flavours, but I would expect them to be the same size. I do
> not consider this to be excessive. You've reported higher figures but,
> as you have indicated, you have included some additional packages for
> ndiswrapper. That would include every dependency needed to install those
> packages, so it does add up.
>
> Ben
>
>

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