2011/1/31 Jonathan Nieder <jrnie...@gmail.com>: > Hi, > > Today I decided I wanted to try out Debian Live (to see how well > Debian works on a certain new laptop). Great --- so I visited > live.debian.net. > > I came in wanting to know: > - where to find a cdimage
In the downloads section, obviously. > - whether it would include debian-installer The inclusion of installer is still somewhat experimental. If you want to install a Debian system you are better off downloading and install CD, that's probably one of the reasons this feature is not advertised. > - (possible bonus) how to burn it There are plenty of pages on the web describing how to burn a CD image using various tools. I don't think it is necessary to replicate the information here. If you really insist you can always send a patch that integrates it nicely into the web ;-) > - potential pitfalls, if any You might have a system without a CD-rom or one not compatible with Debian GNU/Linux. This is a Debian live CD so it does contain a Debian system, with all the possible pitfalls of that. > > The main page does not make this as easy as I'd like (in fact, I still > don't know if a cdimage is available). > > Here it is, for reference: > > [User] [Development] > ------ ------------- > [Archive] et c. > Download releases: [stable] [testing] > Download snapshots: [daily] [weekly] [monthly] > Manual: [en] [de] [fr] [it] [pt_BR] [ro] > [Mailinglist] > Web Images Builder: [CGI] [Django] > [Wiki] > > Thoughts: > > - I am not sure separating user information from developer information > in this way makes much sense. Wouldn't basic information like "how This is common sense. Most users coming to download a CD image won't want to browse the git repo and vice versa. > Debian Live works", "where to get the sources", and "known bugs" > be interesting to both groups? > > - The "User" link points to the "User" image rather than an actual > page. The link is distracting. Can it be avoided? Indeed, that link is useless. It's not meant to be a link in the first place I guess. > > - What does the "archive" link represent? Does it belong on the front > page? It obviously contains materials related to debian-live of various vintage. Where else would such link belong? > > - The "Download releases" and "Download snapshots" links go to a > directory listing, and it is not clear how (or whether) to get to > an ISO image from there. Is one meant to navigate by analogy to the > installer images? Perhaps a landing page with an explanation of that > could help? This is quite obvious to anybody who knows what architecture their computer is. Perhaps an Ubuntu style page for people who don't would be useful since d-l is now official part of Debian. However, the official images should be placed alongside the install CD images on release and hence any such confusion should be handled by Debian documentation. People coming here should be those who want something fresher than Debian stable and hence are expected to know what architecture is their computer at least. > > - By contrast, I had expected the "Manual" link to go straight to the > manual, since I had given choice of language already. Maybe a simple > link saying "Manual" would have made this easier. On the landing page, The thing is that the format selection page the different manual language variants point to should be already localized so that the description of the various formats can be understood. You could have a single Manual link pointing to a language selection page pointing to format selection pages but the language selection page would be a needless distraction. > I think the first link should go straight to the manual, not the mailing > list (i.e., "Available formats" should come before "How to contribute"). > > - What is a "web images builder"? Why do I care if it uses CGI or django? These certainly differ in more than the server technnology used. Perhaps a more detaild description would be useful. > > - The Project section similarly has a list of mysterious-looking links. If you don't specify which links are mysteroius looking and why then it's hard to tell for me (and probably anybody else here) because we already disagree about links 'i386' and 'amd64' being mysterious. > > - The links are grey. Black or blue would be easier to read. The style of the page is under development and sort of frozen for some months already. It sure could use some improvement. Thanks for your comments MIchal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-live-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinqk5w8xfkfzfedky8fclng_84fuon2b6gc3...@mail.gmail.com