Sebastiaan Couwenberg <sebas...@xs4all.nl> writes: hi Bas, dear devs,
> On 10/18/2014 12:12 PM, Felix Natter wrote: >> the good news is I have received a mail from a Microsoft employee >> (unfortunately late on Friday) inviting me on a call regarding >> use of the Bing logo in jmapviewer. >> >> I will make that call on Monday morning and maybe we will be able to >> agree on a free license that I can put in debian/copyright and thus I >> can re-include bing_maps.png > > If they license the logo under a DFSG compatible license that would be > great. And making our lives much easier. Yes. >> But if MS decides the logo must not be included in jmapviewer >> then I'm afraid I *must* remove BingAerialTileSource.java from >> jmapviewer and apply the attached patch [1] to 0.0.svn7480+dfsg1-2, >> removing Bing support from JOSM. Otherwise jmapviewer may be moved to >> non-free because it contains Bing support but not the logo [2]. > > I'm not sure that the alternative is that you *must* remove the Bing > support from jmapviewer. > > The logo referenced by the BrandLogoUri in the attribution REST-call be > fine the use instead of the bing_map.png included in jmapviewer. As > mentioned by Martin Krüger: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765421#30 > > The Bing license says: > > " > and if the required logos and copyright notices are not > included in the service generated content, you shall add the logos and > copyright notices provided by Microsoft to the service generated content > as described in the SDKs > " > > Since the attribution REST-call includes the logo in its generated > content, downloading and using that instead of adding it in jmapviewer > itself seems to comply with the license. I thought you mean to patch josm in your last mail! Of course patching jmapviewer to download the image during build time is a good solution: wget http://dev.virtualearth.net/Branding/logo_powered_by.png -o ... --> is that what you and Martin Krüger mean? (is it even ok from a Debian point of view to download images during build?) --> If yes, then I can implement it on the weekend. If it's more complex, then I'm probably out (see below). @Bas: could you take over in this case? >> --> can we agree on this? > > In the interest of our JOSM users, doing our best to prevent the removal > of Bing support in jmapviewer should be our priority. > > Please discuss the BrandLogoUri solution with Microsoft in your call, > that seems to be the preferred solution to keep jmapviewer and its rdeps > in main, while also complying with the Bing license terms. > > While my brief tests with your patch show that JOSM works fine without > Bing support, it's a major loss of functionality. MapBox Satellite and > other freely usable satellite imagery is not on par with the Bing > imagery. I'm trying hard, but if the logo is not DFSG compliant *and* the BrandLogoUri solution is not acceptable for MS (or Debian), then I don't see any other choice but removing bing support from jmapviewer. Is *that* ok? (this issue shortly before the code freeze puts pressure on me and is beginning to have an impact on my dayjob so I need to finish this on Monday!) Best Regards, -- Felix Natter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-legal-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87zjctihos....@bitburger.home.felix
