* Arnoud Engelfriet: > Florian Weimer wrote: >> | You may make, run and propagate covered works that you do not >> | convey, without conditions so long as your license otherwise remains >> | in force. You may convey covered works to others for the sole purpose >> | of having them make modifications exclusively for you, or provide you >> | with facilities for running those works, provided that you comply with >> | the terms of this License in conveying all material for which you do >> | not control copyright. Those thus making or running the covered works >> | for you must do so exclusively on your behalf, under your direction >> | and control, on terms that prohibit them from making any copies of >> | your copyrighted material outside their relationship with you. >> >> This was put into the license at the very last moment. Maybe it does >> not apply to the Dreamhost case, but I think it does apply to appliances >> like the Tivo, and especially to customer premises equipment given to > > To me the clause reads like a work-for-hire or have-made clause.
I think you missed the "or provide you with facilities for running those works". It's not just about programmers. >> you by our ISP (which are a common source of alleged GPLv2 violations). >> Tivo (or the ISP) only needs to make sure that there's a contract that >> stipulates that you provide electrical power and connectivity to the >> device, so you perform a service for them, and voil?, they don't need to >> provide source code anymore. > > In a Tivo or ISP situation the ISP does not have its customers > "make modifications exclusively for" the ISP. I really don't see > how this clause would apply to an ISP or to Tivo. See above, you provide electricity and rack space to the ISP router, which is "prov[ing] [the ISP] with facilities for running those works" (i.e., the operating system on the router). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]