On Sat, Aug 19, 2006 at 10:41:29PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Still, the DFSG does not addrss patents. This means that there is no > >> point in arguing that patent restrictions violate thit. > >The DFSG doesn't talk about any particular branch of law. It talks > >about "the rights attached to the program" and other such phrases. To > >the extent that those rights are granted or restricted by holders of > >patents, the DFSG addresses patents. > Still, Debian has a long standing policy of doing the opposite.
Yes, because DFSG can apply only to relations between you and those involved in the given piece of software. Thus, if the creator of the program in question grants us only limited rights, this would be a DFSG issue regardless if it's a matter of copyright, patents, "moral rights" or the Totem Law of the kingdom of Kbanga. On the other hand, it is infeasible to care about _third parties_. If I write a piece of software and give it to you, we need to care about the laws of Poland and Italy; there is no problem if some random punk in the US has a patent -- and in fact, for any given piece of software a number of such punks exist. One of recent patents covers telnet, ssh and the like -- should we pull them from Debian? The only reason to comply with patent terrorism is when the punk is especially litigious. The whole concept of patent goes completely against the ideas of capitalism and free market. Free market relies on _scalable_ laws and patents don't scale. They work differently for small and big countries, fail when you deal with entities not within the same patent system, break unless you have perfect instantenous communication within the system, and so on. They are government-granted monopolies and thus they fail whenever you look at something smaller or bigger than a country. To the contrary, DFSG are infinitely scalable. They work as well for a castaway on a desert island, a dissident or a world-wide corporation. Copyrights, with all their downsides, are scalable as well so they can be handled by DFSG well. Patents can't. So, I would say that there is no way for a third party to influence the freeness of a given piece of software. Otherwise, Debian would have to exclude anything that's illegal in North Korea, China or the self-described "Land of the Free". -- 1KB // Microsoft corollary to Hanlon's razor: // Never attribute to stupidity what can be // adequately explained by malice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]