John Goerzen writes ("Re: Who can make binding legal agreements"): > First, I don't believe that SPI has ever granted anyone the ability to > enter into legally-binding agreements to indemnify (which means to use > our resources to defend) third parties. I may be mistaken, though. > Could you please point out where you believe you derive this ability?
I don't think any of the people who made (and are supporting) the decision to ship Sun's Java are saying that SPI has indemnified Sun. > Secondly, I am saying that you should have contacted SPI *first*, so > we could get advice from our attorney, and enter into agreements > properly. This is definitely wrong. SPI should not be involved in licence approval. Firstly, because licence approval is often a political decision for Debian. And secondly because SPI is not the licencee and it is very important for this to remain clear. The licencees are Debian's developers, ftpmasters, users, mirror operators, etc. SPI acts more or less in the role of an ISP: we provide some hardware (eg, we own the actual servers and in some cases have hosting agreements). So if we are notified that SPI property is being used (by Debian developers or by anyone else) to violate a copyright then we will act to prevent ourselves from being liable for contributory infringement. But in this case it seems clear that Sun are happy with the situation, so there is no actual infringement. And of course Debian already has an existing and very responsive notice-and-takedown procedure which means that SPI rarely has to get involved. Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]