Rob Lanphier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would love to work with the Debian project on making sure RPSL is
> Debian-free.  However, it makes it really difficult to engage the
> RealNetworks Legal department when there's a lot of discussion about
> personal tastes, but no mapping back to DFSG clauses.  That just makes
> everyone here believe that there will be an endless stream of
> manufactured excuses as to why future versions of the RPSL will also not
> be considered Debian-free.

Hi Rob,

I think I spoke to you at GUADEC, though I had enough of a headache the
next morning that I could easily be mistaken.

As others have pointed out, the RPSL requires widespread provision of
source even if you're not distributing binaries to the world. I don't
think that's a problem. Others disagree. It's certainly not clearly tied
to the DFSG except in slightly tortuous ways.

What is possibly more of a problem is the patent termination stuff. You
could argue that it discriminates against a field of endeavour (ie,
people who have created patents that Real happen to be in violation of)
- I think this is less tenuous than making the same claim for the
dissident test (which isn't actually the license discriminating against
people, it's their own government). Effectively, the license as it
stands allows Real to make use of other people's intellectual property
without their consent if the patent holder's business model (or
whatever) happens to depend on using the Helix code. 

Obviously Real want to be able to protect themselves against patent
actions. I'm not convinced that doing so in the way the RPSL does is the
best way of doing so. If we set aside the desert island/dissident stuff,
would you be willing to discuss what Real want to achieve by the patent
clauses so we can try to find some sort of acceptable terms?

New licenses seem very keen on providing patent termination clauses.
It's really a discussion that we have to have at some point, especially
since the DFSG as it currently stands really doesn't cover the area too
well.
-- 
Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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