Glenn Maynard writes: >On Sun, Jul 25, 2004 at 12:37:18AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> An example: several people here seem to believe that specifying a >> legal venue in a license is non-free. Take that to a vote as a DFSG >> amendment. If the vote is carried, then we have agreement amongst >> DDs. If not, we clearly as a project consider it free. Either way, we >> can stop the fruitless debate that's been pinging backwards and >> forwards for months if not years. This is a common bugbear in many >> licenses that is'nt going to go away any time soon... > >It doesn't seem to be going back and forth; I don't recall any real >question of it until very recently, and there only seems to be a very >few people arguing against it. I don't like the precedent set by a >couple people disagreeing with a consensus forcing d-legal to a GR.
<sigh> You're completely missing the point - I'm _not_ saying that the disagreement should cause the GR. If we have a licensing issue that needs deciding clearly, we need to involve the rest of the DDs in making that decision. All the handwaving in the world on -legal won't change that. >My opinion might change if there was an indication that this was a >widespread and unreconcilable disagreement: if we can't come to a >solid consensus on a real issue, then something else needs to be done. >However, simple disagreement and discussion doesn't indicate that; >discussion very often leads to agreement. (In practice, it's very >rare for d-legal to not be able to reach a reasonable consensus on >a real issue.) *rotfl* Good joke. I suppose it depends on what you mean by "consensus". >In any event, there's still productive discussion taking place on this >issue, which means it's certainly too early to consider trying to set >anything in stone (ignoring the fact that no changes to the DFSG are >likely to stand any chance before the release, after GR 2004-004). I haven't seen anything at all productive about the discussion for the last several weeks. Nobody with either opinion has changed that opinion due to the discussion - there has been no progress made. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer
