On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 11:29:25PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > But again, the DFSG makes no provision whatsoever for this kind of things.

> > So in general, you believe it's ok to inflict all kinds of risks on
> > users who exercise their rights on software in main, so long as the DFSG
> > doesn't explicitly prohibit them?

> No, but these are hypothetical risks which i have some doubts will happen.
> Like they say here, 0-risk is impossible to obtain, there will always be some
> risk. Still the DFSG are our guidelines for what we consider free, if lawsutis
> are part of it, we need to add a new DFSG entry about it, and go through the
> voting and 3:1 majority requirement and everything.

> Or clearly add a note to the DFSG that we feel free to add any random
> additional constraint at our whim.

> > Forget these inane arguments about what the DFSG does or doesn't
> > prohibit; why would we WANT to expose our users to licenses like this?

> Why not ? And do you consider seriously that the risk involved is a real one ?
> Or just empty speculation ? 

Is the risk of being sued for including small amounts of GPL code in
your binary-only application a real risk?

What's the difference between a "real" risk and a "hypothetical" risk,
until someone actually gets sued?  

The bright line that most followers of debian-legal appear to conform to
is "the licenses say that you can exercise the freedoms listed in the
DFSG".  This is not zero-risk, because nothing in life is zero-risk; the
copyright holder could be acting in bad faith, or you could be sued by a
third party for patent infringement, or even for copyright infringement.
The point is that we don't want our users to be exposed to risks *by the
license*.

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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