Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>So, have you found something non-free that cannot be justified by the >>DFSG? Would you be willing wo work on wording for a modification to >>the DFSG? If you need sponsors I would be happy to help. > > I don't think that the QPL requires any changes to the DFSG to be > clearly non-free. That is, the choice-of-venue clause and the full > publication of any distributed change both have clear grounding in the > DFSG.
Would you might clarifying what that grounding is (or pointing me at a particular message that does so)? I'm currently drafting the second draft of the QPL summary, and that's one of the few things I'm still working on: a well-grounded justification from the actual text of the DFSG. The "fee" angle seems nebulous, and hard to justify; I more-or-less agree with it, but I need a clear way to justify why it is only a "royalty or other fee" if it is "paid" to the upstream developer, and not if it is "paid" to someone you are already distributing the software to. > Before this issue comes up again with a more closely worded license, I > do think there's an aspect of freedom generally recognized by people > here which *should* be part of the DFSG. It wasn't a big deal in the > free-software community when the DFSG was written, but it's become so > since. It's the second biggest distinction between how the OSI read > the same text that we have: the fairness issue that I posted about > earlier today. > > I'd very much like some help in phrasing that properly. I think that the vast majority of the fairness issue is captured by DFSG 3: > Derived Works > > The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must -------- > allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of ------------------------------------------------------------------- > the original software. --------------------- - Josh Triplett
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