On 2004-07-12 15:46:16 +0100 Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
1. someone can explain why choice of venue can be DFSG-free;
How is it not, exactly? It does not limit, in any way, your rights to
use, modify or distribute the software.
As I understand it, it limits all those rights by allowing the 
licensor to require out-of-pocket expenditure by any licensee on legal 
representation in the given venue, instead of possibly representing 
yourself in the court local to your offence as seems to happen 
otherwise. At worst, some of these venues will grant summary judgment 
against you for not appearing, so it becomes an effective arbitrary 
termination clause. At best, we need assurance the chosen venue 
doesn't behave in that way.
I hope that people will correct me if I've misunderstood the case 
against these clauses.
On the other hand, the only case I remember being told for them is 
that they "ensure consistency" and give the licensor an advantage. 
Neither of those seem particularly relevant in helping explain why it 
is acceptable for free software, given the above.
There's far too much navel-gazing going on here...
I don't think that observation helps.

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