Scripsit Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "This license is governed by California law" > > OK. > > "and both of us > > agree that for any dispute arising out of or relating to this Software, > > that jurisdiction and venue is proper in San Francisco or Alameda > > counties." > > No we don't. This is non-free. > I fail to see the difference. There's a big difference between choice of law and choice of venue. If it *just* said "governed by California law", and the licensor decided to file a frivolous lawsuit against me (think tentacles-of-evil test if you will), they would still have to do it in *my* home court, and they would then have to explain to *my* local judge that California law interprets "accompany the copy with full source code" as implicitly including an obligation to pet a cat. With the choice-of-venue requirement, the licensor could just file in *his* home court, and *I* would have to travel to America in order to convince the American judge that distributing source is not related to petting cats. (This might not take much convincing, but if I default on showing up in court since I do not have the money to transport myself to California, the plaintiff's claim automatically [1] wins the day). [1] I don't know whether this is specifically the case in California, but there are plenty of jurisdictions where it is true. I might pay a local lawyer to show up in court on my behalf, but that also assumes that I have the money to do so, and the laywer probably wants payment in advance, given that I'm from out-of-state and American courts generally (so I'm told) do not sentence the loser to pay the winner's legal expenses. -- Henning Makholm "The great secret, known to internists and learned early in marriage by internists' wives, but still hidden from the general public, is that most things get better by themselves. Most things, in fact, are better by morning."