> We are the ones who first started to say that documentation should be > free, and we are the ones who first wrote criteria for free > documentation.
I don't see how this is relevant. It's relevant in the context where I stated it: as a response to an accusation that implied we intentionally distribute non-free documentation because we don't care about the issue. It's relevant that we're the ones that have led the community in caring about this issue, often against strong resistance. Taking a point out of context, and criticizing it for not proving something it wasn't meant to prove, is not useful discussion--it creates tangents that distract the discussion from the issue at hand. Those arguing here against the GFDL frequently create tangents, and have done so several times in the latest thread. When I said that the use invariant sections was not a change, someone cited various changes in *how and where we use them* and presented them as a contradiction. But it's just a tangent--not relevant to the context in which it was mentioned, nor to the larger issue. That message used the term "expansionist policy" to describe these tangents--a term that carries a very harsh attitude. When I pointed that out, another message defended the use of the term "expansion". That's another tangent, because "expansion" and "expansionist policy" carry very different attitudes. Another form of tangent is citing practical inconveniences, often shared with many other accepted free licenses, as if they were reasons to consider a license non-free. Other recent tangents include the question of who was first to write a free software license (it wasn't BSD, but I don't know who it was), and how the GNU Project makes these decisions. For the sake of a more focused and intelligent discussion, I ask the other people on this list to make more effort to avoid tangents, and to criticize tangents as tangents when they are raised by others. Just because the FSF is the first to release a free documentation *license*, doesn't mean it was the first to come up with free documentation *criteria*. The GNU Project has been working on (and applying) criteria for free documentation since the 80s. However, that is a tangent, so let's not go further down it.