Scripsit Yong Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On 2 May 2003, Henning Makholm wrote: > > Scripsit Yong Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > One of the plugins, arguably the only one that most people will be > > > interested, is binary only. > > This will prevent the server itself from being in main - but it can be > > in contrib. > There are a couple of LGPLed plugins to go with the server, albeit less > useful. So perhaps the server and those 2 plugins could be put in main and > the binary only plugin be put in non-free? I was assuming, judging by your own comment, that the non-free plugin is pragmatically important enough that the package ought to declare "Recommends" against the non-free plugin. In that case, Debian policy (2.1.2) prevents it from being in main. Remember, being in main is not a goal or honor in itself. The distinction between main and contrib is that we promise our users that software in main will be genuinely useful *without* looking outside of main. If that is not the case, putting the software in main anyway will just amount to cheating our users. > > I think that it is a Work That Uses the Library. It is clearly > > designed to work with the library by being linked with it. > But it is not designed to work with the library by being *linked* with it. > As a plugin, it is actually designed to work with the library by being > *loaded* into the library. That's what makes me uncertain. Linking and (this meaning of) loading are really just two words for the same process. Rememer, e.g., that the system linker is called "ld" - which is short for "load". And in a very real sense, dynamically liked binaries under Linux do indeed "load" shared libraries rather than being "linked" with them. Look up the man page for ld.so(8). > According to GPL FAQ, under the topic of "If a program released under the > GPL uses plug-ins, what are the requirements for the licenses of a > plug-in", it says: > If the program dynamically links plug-ins, and they make function > calls to each other and share data structures, we believe they form a > single program, so plug-ins must be treated as extensions to the main > program. This means they must be released under the GPL ... > And I think in this regard GPL and LGPL are same. Do I miss anything? Yes, you're missing exactly the difference between LGPL, which is that the LGPL does allow linking (loading, foobaring) with softare under a different license, as long as the user has the means to change the LGPL'ed part of the software. Anyway, it this bothers you it will probably be a relatively simple matter, techincally, to rewrite the LPGL'ed application such that it is a conventional library that is invoked by a user-specified main function, and then writing a BSD-licenced main module that links traditionally to the plugin *and* the LGPL library, connecting them to each other. However, the very triviality of this exercise is one reason why I don't it should be considered different from a licensing standpoint. -- Henning Makholm "Det er du nok fandens ene om at mene. For det ligger i Australien!"