>From ignacio Fri Sep 6 11:56:41 2002 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 11:56:41 +0200 Received: from shannon ([147.156.161.144] helo=localhost ident=ignacio) by shannon with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17nFqz-0006XJ-00 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 11:56:41 +0200 X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0 Received: from sello.ci.uv.es [147.156.1.112] by localhost with IMAP (fetchmail-5.9.11) for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Fri, 06 Sep 2002 11:56:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from idolo.uv.es (idolo.ci.uv.es [147.156.1.38]) by sello.uv.es (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g869swdY016227 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:54:58 +0200 Received: from murphy.debian.org (murphy.debian.org [65.125.64.134]) by idolo.uv.es (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08857 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:54:58 +0200 (METDST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP id 45EFD1F6CC; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 04:54:47 -0500 (CDT) Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from sello.uv.es (sello.ci.uv.es [147.156.1.112]) by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 517DE1F3EA for <debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org>; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 04:54:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from shannon (shannon.irobot.uv.es [147.156.161.144]) by sello.uv.es (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g869sXdY016191; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:54:34 +0200 Received: from ignacio by shannon with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17nFqY-0006X3-00; Fri, 06 Sep 2002 11:56:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 11:56:14 +0200 From: Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa_Fern=E1ndez?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lista de usuarios de debian <debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Debian registered by a trade as TM in Spain! Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mail-Followup-To: Ignacio =?iso-8859-1?Q?Garc=EDa_Fern=E1ndez?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lista de usuarios de debian <debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Organization: Instituto de =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rob=F3tic?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?a?= (Universidad de Valencia) Sender: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ignacio_Garc=EDa_Fern=E1ndez?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=IN_REP_TO,PLING,NO_MX_FOR_FROM version=2.20 X-Spam-Level: Resent-Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Resent-From: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org X-Mailing-List: <debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org> archive/latest/48429 X-Loop: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org List-Post: <mailto:debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 04:54:47 -0500 (CDT) Resent-Bcc: Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 12:28:05 +0200 Resent-To: debian-legal@lists.debian.org
It seems there have been some news. As it has been announced in deb-usr-sp, I'll do a summary here. I also include the full text in spanish. I've annotated the tranlatoin with brackets '[' ']'. In barrapunto it has appered a note that is suposed to be from CEINTEC, the company that was said to have registered Debian. Please, if anyone sees any mistake in the translation or doesn't understand a word, forgive me, and don't doubt to ask :) My English is not very good. The note says: «About the comment published in bp.com on sep-3 2002, CEINTEC wants to point out that: [...] Ceintec did not register the TM Debian. [...] Debian was registered by a person related to CENITEC, by him or herself [not in the name of CEINTEC] on September of 2000, when he/she noticed that some oother names related to Free Soft were being registered by other trades. We [CEINTEC] know that the intention of that person was to protect the mark Debian precisely to avoid others to register it and forbide its use by others (including CEINTEC). We [CEINTEC] know that this person has never oposed to the use of Debian and, of course, that person guarantees that this won't happen in the future (while the GNU philosophy is respected). We [CEINTEC] also know that he/she would give it (now and before) to any Government Institution that guarantees that the whole community can use it freely and that promisses to renew and defend while the distribution [Debian, I understand] exists. [...]» «Respecto al comentario publicado en barrapunto.com el 3/9/02 CEINTEC quiere realizar las siguientes puntualizaciones: Que Ceintec ha defendido y apostado por Linux y el software libre desde 1995. Como se puede comprobar en su Web http://www.ceintec.com Que ha implementado Linux en sus programas de formación cuando nadie hablaba de Linux y muy pocos lo defendían. Que Ceintec no registró la marca Debian. Que la distribución que imparte es RED HAT (no Debian) por lo que no se le puede acusar de "vender cursos de Debian". Que Ceintec, siempre que puede, hace publicidad gratuita de las distribuciones no comerciales de Linux (como Debian). Debian fue registrada por una persona relacionada con la empresa a titulo particular y lo hizo en septiembre del 2000, cuando comprobó que otros nombres relacionados con el soft libre habían sido registrados en España por otras empresas. Nos consta que la intención de esa persona fue proteger la marca Debian precisamente para evitar que otros la registraran e impidieran a los demás (incluido Ceintec) utilizarla. Sabemos que en todo este tiempo no se ha opuesto al uso de Debian y que por supuesto esa persona garantiza que tampoco lo hará en el futuro (siempre que se respete la filosofía GNU). Así mismo nos consta su disposición a traspasarla (ahora y antes) a cualquier Institución Estatal que garantice que toda la comunidad pueda utilizar libremente la marca Debian y que se comprometa a renovarla y defenderla hasta que la distribución deje de existir. Incluso RED HAT defiende la protección de un nombre con su registro de la marca SW (ver en barrapunto el comentario: RED HAT y las patentes del articulo relacionado: More on patentes, o bien: http://www.redhat.com/legal/patent_policy.html ) y la pone a disposición de la comunidad de software libre.» -- May the source be with you -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ignacio García Fernández <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Instituto de Robótica. Universidad de Valencia. Tlf. 96 398 3583 http://shannon.irobot.uv.es/~ignacio/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]