Greetings: I apologize for butting in in the ongoing discussion. Moreover, I am neither a lawyer nor a LaTeX3 team member (a couple of my programs are in the distribution, both under GPL and LPPL). Nevertheless I hope that my thoughts might be of use.
I am a Debian and LaTeX user, so the present misunderstanding between Debian and LaTeX3 concerns me a lot. I think Debian team overlooks a couple of points. 1. Debian already uses software other than LaTeX under the "no changes unless the files are renamed" clause. This is Don Knuth's TeX and MF suite *and* the relevant fonts. Let me remind you that the licensing of TeX is rather peculiar: A. The program itself is in the public domain -- you can do whatever you want with the code or its parts B. The *name* TeX is reserved for Knuth's program. If you program is called TeX, it must satisfy triptest. You can NOT correct bugs in this program, you cannot do Debian QA for it -- you either take it as is or rename it. The same is going for Knuth's Computer Modern fonts. You can do whatever you want with the lettershapes -- as long as you do not call your product CM. If Debian wants to declare (and presumably delete from the main distribution) the software under this license, it would be hypocrisy to keep TeX and fonts. I wonder whether people realize that this means a complete disaster for the GNU info system? GNU info is prepared with a program called texinfo, which is basically a special TeX format. 2. Debian people seem not to realize that LaTeX (and TeX) is BOTH a program and a language -- and a language requires standardization. The nightmare of incompatible HTML dialects proves this point well. Yes, standards limit freedom in some way. However, do you really want your grocer to have a freedom to call 800g a kilogram? As a LaTeX user I have two requirements: A. Standardization. I want a LaTeX document to be compiled and printed exactly in the same way at my desk, at my publisher's desk, at my student's computers etc UNLESS I or students or publishers want otherwise. B. Flexibility. I want a possibility to completely change appearance of any document I received -- IF I WANT IT. The present state of LaTeX satisfies these requirements. Due to LPPL I am assured that my documents will look exactly the same if their source code is unchanged. Due to the fact that LaTeX is a macro language, I can redefine ANY command in any document. Suppose a user is near blind and wants all documents to be printed in a big fontsize. He can create a program (in latexese called style) bigsize.sty and add to all his documents a line \usepackage{bigsize}. By doing this he makes a decision about document formatting. He is free to do this under LPPL. On the other hand, the authors of the documents know that the formatting of their works is exactly same UNLESS a user made an explicit decision to change. To summarize: I think LPPL strikes a necessary balance between standardization and flexibility. This balance was tested by 20+ years of TeX, which is licensed under exactly same conditions. -- Good luck -Boris These download files are in Microsoft Word 6.0 format. After unzipping, these files can be viewed in any text editor, including all versions of Microsoft Word, WordPad, and Microsoft Word Viewer -- From Micro$oft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]