Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Walter Landry wrote: > > Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > You have made a very convincing argument that "required to install" is > > too broad. My criteria is "required to run". > > I've showed that your interpretation of 'required to run' is too broad, > as you attempt to stretch it in the same direction, by arguing from the > 'but they are both installed together in main' angle. > > Eclipse does not require Kaffe to run, it runs very well on many other > VMs. Eclipse in main would require Kaffe to be installed, but wouldn't > necessarily require it run, as you still could run it perfectly fine > with other VMs.
I feel like we are going in circles here. I have answered this claim before [1]. > > When Debian puts Eclipse into main, Debian is distributing Eclipse to > > be used with Kaffe. When it is in contrib, Debian is distributing > > Eclipse to be used by something outside of main. > > Nope. The GPL does not allow you to say 'you must use this data with > that program and that program alone'. That interpretation of the GPL > would violate freedom 0. > > You have no right to limit how I run a program I get from you licensed > under the GPL. The issue is not running the program, it is _distributing_. If you distribute readline by itself, that is fine. If you distribute GPL-incompatible program Foo which uses readline by itself, you might be ok. You are definitely not ok when you distribute them together. > If you do that, you lose the rights to distribute the program under > the GPL at all, as the GPL does not allow you to add restrictions to > it. That hold for Kaffe just as well as it holds for, say, your > http://www.nongnu.org/arx/ project. You can't restrict me to use ArX > only for GPLd projects, in general. I do not want this to become an advertisement for my project. Let me just say that I am well aware of the licensing problems, and I have been working with the relevant authors to fix it. Because of these problems, I have not encouraged anyone to package it. Regards, Walter Landry [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/01/msg00679.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
