I already ordered a new battery, but out of curiosity I executed those
commands you told me to (find /proc/acpi/battery, cat
/proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state, cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info) and this is
what I found:

cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info

present:                 yes

design capacity:         4400 mAh

last full capacity:      3334 mAh

battery technology:      rechargeable

design voltage:          14800 mV

design capacity warning: 440 mAh

design capacity low:     133 mAh

capacity granularity 1:  44 mAh

capacity granularity 2:  44 mAh

model number:            DELL53LSN

serial number:           678

battery type:            LION

OEM info:                Sanyo

cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
present:                 yes

capacity state:          ok

charging state:          charged

present rate:            1 mA

remaining capacity:      4400 mAh

present voltage:         16748 mV


Does this mean anything to you?  And just to be clear this is the old,
presumably non-functioning, battery.

Thanks,
-Pete


On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Bob Proulx <b...@proulx.com> wrote:

> Peter Rapisarda wrote:
> > to complement my studying I decided to resurrect an old laptop which is a
> > Dell Inspiron 2200 with a Intel Celeron M processor.  The hard drive had
> > gone bad so I replaced it
>
> Should be fine.  My main laptop is of similar vintage.  I have
> replaced the battery however.
>
> > and purched a verison of debian off of OSDisc.com and used that to
> > install debian on my "new" system.  Everything works great except
> > when I start up the computer i get a message that says:
> >
> > Time-of-day not set - please run SETUP program
> > WARNING: The battery cannot be identified.
> > This system will be unable to charge this battery...
>
> That message would not come from Debian.  I believe (not 100% so
> beware) that that type of message would come from the BIOS at boot
> time when it runs its POST (power on self check).  It wouldn't have
> started to load the OS yet.
>
> Old machines sometimes have problems with the hardware clock because
> the backup battery on the clock will have died over the years.  This
> can often be fixed easily by replacing the battery which is usually a
> very common CR2032 battery.  For a desktop with an always available
> internet connection this is usually a don't-care because the OS can
> set the clock at boot time from an internet time source.  For a laptop
> this is somewhat more important because if you boot away from any
> network connection then it will probably think the time is 1970 at the
> zero integer time of the Unix epoch since the clock usually returns 0.
> Depending upon how you use your laptop this may or may not annoy you
> or others.  You can probably ignore it if you understand it.
>
> Old laptops sometimes have problems with failed batteries, both main
> batteries and clock batteries.  Different manufacturers do different
> things with the main battery information.  Some will report 100% even
> if the battery can't hold a charge.  It isn't unusual to need to
> replace the battery on old laptops.
>
> > Is this a problem with the battery itself, or did I install something
> > incorrectly maybe?  If I leave the laptop plugged in it works like a
> charm,
> > but the second I take the plug out of the wall (even with the battery
> > inserted into the laptop) it shuts off.  As you can imagine this is
> > extremely annooying and I have no idea what to do.  I don't want to go
> out
> > and purchase a new battery until I'm sure that's the issue.  Any help
> would
> > be greatly appreciated.
>
> I think your problem is mostly likely a worn out battery that is no
> longer servicable.  To know for sure you will need to look at the data
> for the battery.
>
> Run this command and see what information is available:
>
>  find /proc/acpi/battery
>
> Then print the contents of any "state" or "info" files that are shown
> there.  On my machine I have BAT0 and the following files.  The names
> of the directories may vary somewhat depending upon what BIOS and ACPI
> subsystem exists on your machine.  Vendors will show different units.
> Pretty much every vendor will have somewhat unique data here.  You
> need to look at it and then deal with the result.
>
>  $ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state
>  present:                 yes
>  capacity state:          ok
>  charging state:          charged
>  present rate:            0 mW
>  remaining capacity:      70010 mWh
>  present voltage:         12393 mV
>
>  $ cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/info
>  present:                 yes
>  design capacity:         77760 mWh
>  last full capacity:      70090 mWh
>  battery technology:      rechargeable
>  design voltage:          10800 mV
>  design capacity warning: 3504 mWh
>  design capacity low:     200 mWh
>  capacity granularity 1:  1 mWh
>  capacity granularity 2:  1 mWh
>  model number:            IBM-08K8193
>  serial number:             107
>  battery type:            LION
>  OEM info:                FLT
>
> This tells us that my battery is designed for 77 watt-hours but is
> currently only holding 70 watt-hours.  It is plugged into power at the
> moment so so the discharge rate is zero.  This shows a degradation
> from new condition to 90% of design.  It is a relatively new battery
> and so this looks pretty good.  But an old and worn out battery may
> only show a last full capacity of 10 watt-hours or worse!
>
> If you post your information about your battery then folks on this
> list can help diagnose it.
>
> Bob
>

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