I have a Dell Latitude C600 running unstable. This is largely irrelevant. The important detail is that it has a built-in 802.11 wireless Ethernet card, but not all of the world has wireless, so I also have a separate 100base-T Ethernet card. Assuming I'm being competent, exactly one of these will be working at a time.
There are a couple of services that become unhappy if you start them before there's network. The more common one is ntpd; it starts happily without network, but will never sync if the time is sufficiently far off, and you can't run ntpdate after ntpd comes up. (The less common one is zhm, from MIT's Zephyr instant-messaging system, which just won't start if it can't reach the Zephyr servers.) One obvious way to work around this is to drop scripts into /etc/network/if-{up,down}.d that start and stop things. But this leads to problems: 1. Boot; pcmcia-cs starts wireless card on eth0 A. zhm and ntpd start 2. Insert 100base-T card; pcmcia starts on eth1 B. zhm and ntpd start (hopefully nop's) 3. 'cardctl eject' to get rid of wireless card C. zhm and ntpd stop (wrong!) This can be hacked around by adding logic to determine if network actually exists. One criterion that's been suggested to me is to check to see whether a default route exists, and if so, if the gateway machine is reachable; if so, the network exists. This feels a little klunky to implement by hand, though. So, the big question: there are five or six different laptop network configuration packages out there. Do any of them deal adequately with this case? -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ "Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal." -- Abra Mitchell