Adam, the thing I described works flawlessly here. Personally I don't use Netscape (I use GNUs) but my family does. I wanted a possibility to check all (every user's) mail at once and automatically when our common machine goes online, and it works.
The recent fetchmail gets unseen msgs only, unless you specify -a (all msgs, seen or not). Note that I said (or meant) in my original posting I have turned off automatic retrieval in Netscape. If you combine Netscape and Xbiff or anything else that tells you new mail has arrived and have a little discipline, you will be able to avoid most Netscape crashes if I got you right: just don't hit the "Get msg"-button if there's no new mail. This is no work-around for the usual hangs when Netscape expects to be online in order to display any non-local Browser Start page. Try "Browser starts with: Blank page". As for the performance argument, Netscape seems to retrieve msgs very very fast indeed. You don't need "Send later" any more and I don't know what happens if you use it. I suspect some Netscape thing will be done that should be avoided if you ever want your msg to get delivered to anybody ;). "Send" does what you want: queue into exim. HTH Andre Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Andre Berger wrote: > > > Cory Snavely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > This is the *exact* same problem I have. One possible solution I've been > > > kicking around is to set up a low-end server at home with imapd and > > > Apache with mod_roaming (for the address books, etc.) > > > > > > That's a lot of work. To confess, though, I thought it might be fun 8) > > > and good practice. > > > > > > My biggest complaint, though, is that the potato Netscape doesn't seem > > > to have the same "offline reading" capability as the Windows 98 one. > > > Does anybody know about that (why that feature doesn't seem present)? > > > > You just have to use it ;) > > It's not *quite* this simple. Unix Netscape (incl. Linux) assumes a > persistent net > connection, so it doesn't even have the "go offline" option of the Windows > and Mac > versions. I guess the assumption (5-6 years ago) was that nobody would dream > of > using Unix on a laptop, or (heaven forbid) a home machine. Hopefully Mozilla > will > remedy this. > > I've found even if I turn off auto message retrieval on Netscape, it still > tries to > do it sometimes when switching folders (!!), and if I've done > "/etc/init.d/networking stop" then Netscape hangs. (If I leave networking > "running" > while disconnected, it just times out after a couple of seconds with "no > route to > host".) > > My laptop has an ethernet card problem such that when I suspend/resume, I > have to > remove and reinstall the driver module, which means /etc/init.d/networking > stop and > start have to surround rmmod and modprobe. I put this in /etc/apm/resume.d/ > > Browsing behaves similarly to fetching mail: if networking is down, it hangs, > otherwise times out and displays the version in cache. To browse the cache, > there's > always "about:cache", but it includes all files of all types in a big list > which is > annoying to look through. (Anyone know of a way to get just a list of HTML > page > titles?) > > > I have exim to send mail from and fetchmail to download mail to my > > potato box. > > This is cool, but (last time I tried it a year ago) fetchmail's POP > capabilities > were not quite as advanced as Netscape's. For example, you could leave mail > on the > server, but next time you went to fetch it, it would get everything there, > including > what you left on the server before, so you'd get multiple copies of what was > left > before. Netscape doesn't have this problem, but then it isn't a problem if > you > don't leave mail on the server. :-) > > Also, Netscape seemed to get messages from the POP server about twice as fast > as > fetchmail, over a 56K modem. These fetchmail problems may or may not still be > there. > > Of course, using movemail solves the above problem (of hanging when Netscape > tries > to get new mail). :-) > > > Add shell scripts to /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/ that send and receive > > mail automatically as soon as you go online. > > That's pretty cool, thanks for that tip! I'll use that at home. Now if only > my > laptop had a modem... :-) > > > If you want to send mail, > > always use the "Send" btn (not "Send later"). This will add the > > msg to the exim queue. > > Are there any disadvantages to "Send later" aside from not automatically > sending it > from the /etc/ppp/ip-up.d script (which only works for PPP users)? > > Thanks again, > > -Adam P. > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Andre Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> from Bonn, Germany
