On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Steve McIntyre wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 01:29:27PM +1100, Tim Connors wrote:
> >
> >Geez, no fvwm users yet?
> >(Not that I usually answer these polls)
> >
> >Of course, I have a setup I have been happy with for 6 years, so it was
> >only 6 months back that I decided to upgrade from fvwm1 to 2.
>
> Well, quite. I've got a fvwm setup that I've been tuning for ~10
> years. I made the swap to fvwm2 about 5 years ago. In fact,
> checking... Yay! my m4-ified fvwm2rc is still in the package as an
> example. I should probably update that, as by now it probably won't
> work too well.
>
> Fvwm is cool. It takes a fair bit of configuration, but it's fast,
> small and absolutely bomb-proof in my experience. And several of the
> newer WMs still don't match its features...

Bulletproof my oath. One thing you *never* *ever* want to segfault is your
window manager. Because if you have been logged in for 60 days, there is a
lot of state stored on your desktop[1] that you don't want lost when the
WM dies, gives control back to X, and X quits on you. (I saw someone on a
solaris box with a 250 day uptime, using the same session of fvwm he
started on the first day (that was when he moved to that site))

The window manager should be the most reliable peice of software on the
system next to your kernel, and I can't say too many positive things about
the reliability of some WM's.

As it is, I did have the occasional segfault while trialing FVWM 2.5 (the
unstable tree), and as such made a tiny shell script that continually
respawns fvwm as long as the exit code is greater than 130, and invoke
that instead if fvwm in my ~/.xsession

As for configuration, my personal view is that the default configuration
for fvwm is crap. Not very poweful and crap. The reason people *think*
fvwm is crap, is because they never go past the default config. If there
was a better config straight off, maybe people wouldn't be turned away so
quickly?


[1]In the form of XEmacs buffers and layout, mozilla windows, 1001 xterms,
login session, etc.

-- 
TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/
We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
       -- Pink Floyd, Another Brick in the Wall


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