http://www.linux-laptop.net/ibm.html yep, 1st place I looked. great resource. Ive read thru all the listings for 760 models and got some idears but nothing yet. doh didnt think abt the cdrom not being able to read a burnt cd. that xplains some things. Ive tried floppy=thinkpad and mem=, hd= jic. on one of the other models somehting was said abt using a custom kernel for the bootfloppy. I havent tried that yet. andre -- did your 760ed do the same thing when you first tried booting from floppy?? maybe i need to try that again. its possible i made a typo typing "floppy=thinkpad" I used a 2.5" to 3.5" ide connector to install debian on the drive from my desktop. but on the thinkpad It starts loadiing the kernel then shuts itself down. Im kinda thinking and its been sugested that this prob has something to do w/ apm but i havent really figured a work around this way yet. thanks crit __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]